Kratos & Dante vs Kain

Started by k1Lla44117 pages

Originally posted by Burning thought
Kratos has mostly strength feats with his arms and hands, very few are with his legs and none are with his neck, head, and its logical comapred ot real life that his strength would be next to no resistance to TK at his neck, so what he has shown is useless unless you find me a vid of him breaking rocks and monsters with his throat. Kain lifting Kratos in the air from the beginning which is fair game is a fine strategy, him being strong in his arms gives him no protection, the only way running will help him is if he was a very fast character which unfortunaltey for him, he is not.

Its an invisible force and an almost inangible force, its just mental energy, sure it makes physical effect but you cant grab it with your hands or punch your way out of it, its as simple as that. If Kain grabs Kratos by the neck, toe, head etc hes stuffed because he can do nothing...just wiggle like a worm on the end of a rod, he cant bring any strength, momentum to the table to break such a hold.

No its not lol, and no its not faster either, a modern tank can go over 60 mph and weighs 60+ tonnes, Kratos has neither values, all he has is higher strength shown by feats in his arms and legs, and tbh his more impressive strength feats were when he had half of his godly powers before Zeus had him drain them into BoO.

No it wouldnt, how would it? he would have no momentum when jogging at all so now your being ridiculous, I think your trying to reach out and give Kratos high strength in places hes never shown nor would likely have, infact the heavier you are up top like Kratos' build the easier it is to trip, Kratos would fall like a rock if he was running and then be dragged into the air like a toy with Kains TK, where he can do nothing.

Most of kratos' feats are with his arms legs, lets get that straight now. Most of the time he is pushing something from his upper body using his arms and pushing of something with his legs.

I read what you said a couple posts ago, i never said that kain wont be able to tk kratos, just that his tk wont do much against his neck since he can still move, and its not like kratos' neck is just as strong as some old mans, i dont recall kratos busting something with his back, head, chest, or finger, but it would be silly to assume those as just as strong as a normal old man, kratos is already a demigod and to assume his neck is already that weak is absurd.

Now, what do you think would happen if kain tked kratos? he will fling him in the air and kill him? Its almost as if invisible hands are trying to strangle him, its not like it stops the rest of his body. kratos could just use the BoO and hit him a couple of times, which would let go of the tk. Or he could just use typhons bane to make him stop, which would give kratos enough time to get up to a sprint, and a full moving kratos, even when hit/grabbed at the neck, will not stop him. By the way, what is the best strength feat kain shows with his tk?

And lol @ kain taking the BoO from kratos, now THAT sir is something i know for a fact he cant do.

If Kratos is TKed, he will be paralyzed. Kain could just probably freeze Kratos. And why would Kratos just run at Kain? Couldn't Kain just teleport behind him?

he will not be paralyzed, like dj said tk has its amount of force, and its not enough to stop kratos. Kain teleporting behind kratos is suicide, in a milisecond he could turn around and decapitate him.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
Most of kratos' feats are with his arms legs, lets get that straight now. Most of the time he is pushing something from his upper body using his arms and pushing of something with his legs.

I read what you said a couple posts ago, i never said that kain wont be able to tk kratos, just that his tk wont do much against his neck since he can still move, and its not like kratos' neck is just as strong as some old mans, i dont recall kratos busting something with his back, head, chest, or finger, but it would be silly to assume those as just as strong as a normal old man, kratos is already a demigod and to assume his neck is already that weak is absurd.

Now, what do you think would happen if kain tked kratos? he will fling him in the air and kill him? Its almost as if invisible hands are trying to strangle him, its not like it stops the rest of his body. kratos could just use the BoO and hit him a couple of times, which would let go of the tk. Or he could just use typhons bane to make him stop, which would give kratos enough time to get up to a sprint, and a full moving kratos, even when hit/grabbed at the neck, will not stop him. By the way, what is the best strength feat kain shows with his tk?

And lol @ kain taking the BoO from kratos, now THAT sir is something i know for a fact he cant do.

Which is why grabbing Kratos my somewhere that does not include his arms, or legs is what Kain will do, like his neck, his head, etc, he cant do anything then.

No he cant, how cna Kratos sitll move when being held in the air by his neck? the most he could possibly get is a wiggle, which is worthless, he wont be able to build momentum or excert strength...so hes useless. His neck would have no more feats than Moebius', its simple fact you cant excert strength in your neck especially not for breaking any TK thats for sure.

No he would just hold him up there until Dante is dead, and to answer the rest TK Shackles could bond kratos arms or items, infact Kain could steal all the items that Kratos was not holding at the time and toss them around the battlefield. Its not like Kratos is going to be able to do much at all with Kain and Dante ending up miles away from him. Kains best TK strength feat is prob breaking a few weak rocks and teleporting knights in full armour with ease.

How so? what possible diffrence could Kratos running have on the weight and mass of his neck? you assume to much if you think Kratos will have full strength from all the feats he has shown just because hes running quickly.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
he will not be paralyzed, like dj said tk has its amount of force, and its not enough to stop kratos. Kain teleporting behind kratos is suicide, in a milisecond he could turn around and decapitate him.

Ofcourse it is, when hes floating in the air and held by his throat, or what if Kain puts Kratos' arms in a low strength position like bent behind his back where he can excert any strength? he will be hopeless.

Kratos is not that quick, certainly not as quick as Kain.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
he will not be paralyzed, like dj said tk has its amount of force, and its not enough to stop kratos. Kain teleporting behind kratos is suicide, in a milisecond he could turn around and decapitate him.

Okay, how can he TK him, but he CAN'T be paralyzed? Bullshit, he never has done it, nor will he ever do that.

sigh.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
kratos kills any form of kain including scion
dante kills ny form of kain including scion

whats so hard about this?

Maybe K.O.?

^not by kain surely

Heh, lol. I mean, wouldn't he reform? Or atleast would be hard to K.O. him(probably).

Canoncially/realistically they wouldn't beat able to be him...I think.

canonically and realistically, either one can destroy kain. kain cant reform if hes dead, if your referring to the mist thing.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Canoncially/realistically they wouldn't beat able to be him...I think.
you have low self esteem

Originally posted by leonheartmm
canonically and realistically, either one can destroy kain. kain cant reform if hes dead, if your referring to the mist thing.

No. And because of his "fate" he can't die or whatever(and Raz's wraith blade).

Plot device invincibility is off, remember Gumachi?

Oh...yeah.

Originally posted by Gumachi
No. And because of his "fate" he can't die or whatever(and Raz's wraith blade).

and? because of his FATE solid snake cant die in the duration of mgs1, does it go to reason then that sephiroth cant kill mgs1 snake???? plot devices which are true in the media UNIVERSE have no place in vs discussions. SPECIALLY seeing that the entire cycle of death is controlled by a giant octopus on a single planet.

"Giant octopus" Lol.

He cannot be an Octopus, they only have 8 tentacles hence the "Oct" wheras the EG has thousands.

^sigh a squid then

Squid, octopus, either way he's pathetic 😆