Leon Kennedy(RE4) vs Chris Redfield(RE5)

Started by Ridley_Prime7 pages

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Wesker was also drugged at that point.

I brought that up already. Wesker still had plenty fight left in him after that though regardless, and for Chris to react/counter his attacks and land a shot on him or two in the plane cutscene is still impressive, with how fast Wesker was still moving at that time.

edit: I wasn't denying that they were no match for him before he was overdosed with the serum. I myself said that them conveniently having the serum to inject him with was PIS. Everything else was fair game.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
...and he had also been shot in the face with a rocket, five minutes prior.

Him getting shot with rockets was all gameplay. Try again.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Leon kills an El Gigante on foot in a small area, while Sheva and Chris both use mounted weapons to combat just one.

FYI Ndesu is superior to the El Gigante, what with him tearing 50 ton boulders out of the ground and throwing them. And I'd say Chris and Sheva had a harder fight, given that they were immobile the entire time.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I brought that up already. Wesker still had plenty fight left in him after that though regardless, and for Chris to react/counter his attacks and land a shot on him or two in the plane cutscene is still impressive, with how fast Wesker was still moving at that time.
He wasn't moving at bullet dodging speeds after the serum injection, though. In fact he seemed way slower in almost every way. Is it "impressive", well, that's relative.

Him getting shot with rockets was all gameplay.
Which is my entire point. "Crushing people's heads with a punch" and quick-time events are also gameplay.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
FYI Ndesu is superior to the El Gigante, what with him tearing 50 ton boulders out of the ground and throwing them. And I'd say Chris and Sheva had a harder fight, given that they were immobile the entire time.

Where'd you get 50 tons from? If that's a calc based off of real world math, you'd have to take into account that:

1. They were standing on dirt. The floor wasn't made out of stone. Ergo that would be a giant ball of dirty and soil, not solid stone.

and

2. If it really was a 50 ton stone boulder, then shooting it with a gatling gun wouldn't make it shatter into a million pieces. A 50. caliber round would barely put a dent in a stone boulder, and those gatling guns weren't even using 50. caliber rounds if the damage they were doing to the zombies on the bikes and trucks earlier are any indication.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
He wasn't moving at bullet dodging speeds after the serum injection, though.

orly?

I'll admit he seemed a bit slower at some parts though, but he still had some bullet dodging moments after the injection.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Which is my entire point. "Crushing people's heads with a punch" and quick-time events are also gameplay.

The fight with Chis & Sheva and Wesker on the plane is still essentially a cutscene though. You can even rewatch it as one (without having to do any of the quick-time events) on the cutscenes menu of the game. Wesker getting hit by rockets on the other hand, was never in a cutscene (before he fused with Uroboros) and was pure gameplay

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Why are we even bringing Degeneration Leon in here? I thought this was RE5 Chris vs RE4 Leon... *looks at thread title*

If the Leon side is just bringing in Degeneration feats because they can't prove he can beat Chris with his RE4 feats alone, then I take that as a concession. 313 At least, for this thread.

Just remembered that particular scene. I'm not arguing anything.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
FYI Ndesu is superior to the El Gigante, what with him tearing 50 ton boulders out of the ground and throwing them. And I'd say Chris and Sheva had a harder fight, given that they were immobile the entire time.

Blax covered it. Not sure why you're arguing those with definite numbers.

Also, the Ndesu is more resilient to firearms and larger, but Sheva and Chris simply had to duck to dodge its attacks, whatever ones they could not simply shoot at.

By comparison, Leon had to fight his first without ample cover or "duck method". He also battled two more in the mines. This is important because the feat indicates physical prowess and agility in combat. I'm sure in the same situation, Leon could duck and shoot.

Yay, so Leon win this one!!!!

So how did it go in RE6? A clear winner, or did Capcom wuss out and go for the stalemate?

Stalemate.

Figures

Spoilers ahead..
YouTube video

Originally posted by Estacado
Spoilers ahead..
YouTube video
Of Course It Will Be A Stalemate! This Happens All The Time,Big Two Main Characters In Resident Evil Go H2H Obviously The Capcom Won't Let Either get Beaten By The Other! Kinda Like Ryu vs Ken...

I can live with a stalemate honestly, even as long as these two characters have been debated.