Originally posted by Xzpunisher
But we know he isnt omnipotent, and he has never shown to be omnipotent, hes just ridiculously powerful,Nabu and Shazam have both hanged with the Spectre
THey have not shown to be omnipotent either. They have done nothing that list them as such. They are just ridiculusly powerful too. Anyway Spectre would win
I never said they were omnipotent, I said they have omnipotent master over magic, which means anything that isnt magic related, they dont control
Shazam and Nabu are the keepers of Magic, they have omnipotent control over magic and ONLY Magic, understand now?
Spectre does win in a stomp, but Shazam and Nabu have both battled and held there own against the Spectre, which puts them both above RKT and Odin
Originally posted by Xzpunisher
I never said they were omnipotent, I said they have omnipotent master over magic, which means anything that isnt magic related, they dont controlShazam and Nabu are the keepers of Magic, they have omnipotent control over magic and ONLY Magic, understand now?
Spectre does win in a stomp, but Shazam and Nabu have both battled and held there own against the Spectre, which puts them both above RKT and Odin
Let's agree to disagree. They feel against the Spectre as Odin would do. I don't think it's an indicator of who is more powerful.
Originally posted by Mindset
How is a 10 sec bfr similar to a 10 sec knockout, which is what was being talked about?
The original statement was "Very quickly is a relative term. If he's down for a ten count, seems like a knock out to me. And he was put down/disabled for more than ten counts several times throughout Day of Vengeance and in other stories."
I dont recall Spectre ever being knocked out in DoV. I may be wrong and if i am, id like to see the scans to refresh my memory. I do remember Spectre being temporarily incapacitated, but damage wasnt able to be done against him at the same time(Black Alice). The wizard knocked him down, but not out and Spectre recovered and killed him.
If we talk about a character being knocked out for 10 secs, id like to know how that would equate to a victory when the person gets up and pulverizes the person or even kill them? The reason i think the 10 sec bfr and 10 sec knockout are similar is because it doesnt keep the person out of the fight long enough to be considered a victory imo.
Originally posted by Xzpunisher
Yeah but Odin wasnt able to beat Surtur without sacraficing his life, and Spectre is many many leagues above Surtur even with the TLS
The twilight sword was a weapon that could rewrite reality and the Spectre is indeed leagues above when the Presence backs him. And Presence didn't back him in DoV
I dont think you understand how the Spectre works,
The Presence doesnt back him up, the Presence limits him
An unbound Spectre is when the Spectre is at his most powerful, example would be Hal Jordan Spectre recreating reality
The Spectre in DOV was an enraged Spectre, he wasnt being bound by the Presence
As far as Odin is concerned, lets not forget that even when he was being amped by the Gunigir /spelling...
He was unable to put down Thanos,
Originally posted by Xzpunisher
The Spectre wins and it is a massive curbstomp
DOV Spectre was unable to curbstomp Captain Marvel,and was getting slapped around by Nightshade for a time.
Hell,he would have lost to Shazam if he wasn't able to manipulate the "omnipotent magic user's" own power source.
Pick up the comic,drop the bias.
Originally posted by Xzpunisher
I dont think you understand how the Spectre works,
The Presence doesnt back him up, the Presence limits himAn unbound Spectre is when the Spectre is at his most powerful, example would be Hal Jordan Spectre recreating reality
The Spectre in DOV was an enraged Spectre, he wasnt being bound by the Presence
As far as Odin is concerned, lets not forget that even when he was being amped by the Gunigir /spelling...
He was unable to put down Thanos,
He was unable to put down Thanos just because Marvel was hyping him. He has beatten far greater.
Also by your logic the spectre was unable to put down C Marvel
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Originally posted by jrodslam
Not sure if that entirely true. From what i took from it was that The Presence didnt get involved at all till Spectre killed Nabu.
By the way That wasn't rune magic Thor
