RKT vs Spectre (DoV)

Started by Xzpunisher19 pages

Originally posted by Warlord
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Plus that thor - rulk incident is bull**** and everyone knows it.
As for the super skrull she had the powers of the gods and Thor did just fine. Not a scratch

By the way That wasn't rune magic Thor

I didnt say it was RKT

And I didnt say it was legit, Im saying characters like these suffer from PIS all the time

PIS and CIS off, Spectre would stomp RKT

Originally posted by Martian_mind
DOV Spectre was unable to curbstomp Captain Marvel,and was getting slapped around by Nightshade for a time.

Hell,he would have lost to Shazam if he wasn't able to manipulate the "omnipotent magic user's" own power source.

Pick up the comic,drop the bias.

Question. Although Marvel did put up a great fight vs Spectre, are you saying that he was unable to curbstomp Marvel or just immediately end the fight had he actually really wanted to? Same for Nightshade and all the others he decided to **** it out with? He would have easily finished Marvel as he did BA. He actually did it in the later just before facing Shazam.

Les not forget those he actually wanted to quickly disperse of in Fate, Stranger, Sapphire, Xanadu and others.

Spectre curbstomp, there are only 3 beings in Marvel and 4 in DC that can beat an unbound Spectre

Originally posted by jrodslam
Question. Although Marvel did put up a great fight vs Spectre, are you saying that he was unable to curbstomp Marvel or just immediately end the fight had he actually really wanted to? Same for Nightshade and all the others he decided to **** it out with? He would have easily finished Marvel as he did BA. He actually did it in the later just before facing Shazam.

Les not forget those he actually wanted to quickly disperse of in Fate, Stranger, Sapphire, Xanadu and others.

In terms of raw power,he seemed o lack the ability.He needed to manipulate and attack powers sources for many of his opponents, rather then outrightly killing them.

And i just don't think he's oing to be able to pull that off quickly on RKT.

Originally posted by Xzpunisher
I didnt say it was RKT

And I didnt say it was legit, Im saying characters like these suffer from PIS all the time

PIS and CIS off, Spectre would stomp RKT

DOV Spectre wasn't PIS.

He was a hostless Spectre who operated at a clearly defined level for a short amount of time.

And that level was not sufficient to curbstomp RKT.

Spite thread, move along

Fail trolls fail.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
DOV Spectre wasn't PIS.

He was a hostless Spectre who operated at a clearly defined level for a short amount of time.

And that level was not sufficient to curbstomp RKT.

He was depowered for the sake of the plot, it wasnt until he went after the Lords of Order that he showed powers on a massive scale

You fail, RKT gets annhilated

Originally posted by Xzpunisher
He was depowered for the sake of the plot, it wasnt until he went after the Lords of Order that he showed powers on a massive scale

You fail, RKT gets annhilated

considering the storyline was about a depowered Spectre wreaking havok,him being weaker for the sake of the plot goes without say.

Oh,and that power on a massive scale was nothing compared to what Odin has demonstrated.

Plot comprehension fail?

Originally posted by Martian_mind
In terms of raw power,he seemed o lack the ability.He needed to manipulate and attack powers sources for many of his opponents, rather then outrightly killing them.

And i just don't think he's oing to be able to pull that off quickly on RKT.

Outright killing his opponents wasnt completely his goal. His goal was to eliminate magic, and as he was doing that, magic was getting weaker as a whole. I dont feel he lacked the ability at all. Why outright kill Billy/Cap when Shazam would just find another avatar? Id go for the wizard as well. He did that(although he didnt clearly get rid of his spirit). Why kill Hawk and Dove? He killed their source and they were powerless after. Why didnt he attack other sources? Beats me. Maybe others didnt have a direct "source" of power to eliminate, thus getting rid of others, would make his job easier.

Spectre took out some lower ranked magic users before going after the LOO

Yeah Odins demonstrated his power, when he wasnt able to beat Surtur or Thanos despite being powered up by th Gunigar /spelling

Hal Jordan Spectre recreated freaking reality, I'm afraid thats far above Odin and RKT realm of power

A better fight would of been PS vs RKT
RKT would still lose, but at least he would last more then 3 seconds

Originally posted by jrodslam
Outright killing his opponents wasnt completely his goal. His goal was to eliminate magic, and as he was doing that, magic was getting weaker as a whole. I dont feel he lacked the ability at all. Why outright kill Billy/Cap when Shazam would just find another avatar? Id go for the wizard as well. He did that. Why kill Hawk and Dove? He killed their source and they were powerless after. Why didnt he attack other sources? Beats me. Maybe others didnt have a direct "source" of power to eliminate, thus getting rid of others, would make his job easier.
And Im pretty sure he was being corrupted by Eclipso when he fought Captain Marvel, plus Enchantress was amping him with more magic also

Surtur with the Twilight sword was a universal thread, Thanos was PIS.
Anyway Idon't think that there is a doubt that Spectre would win. It's just Thor would put up a fight at least like Shazam did

Originally posted by Xzpunisher
Spectre took out some lower ranked magic users before going after the LOO

Yeah Odins demonstrated his power, when he wasnt able to beat Surtur or Thanos despite being powered up by th Gunigar /spelling

Hal Jordan Spectre recreated freaking reality, I'm afraid thats far above Odin and RKT realm of power

Is Hal Jordan Spectre DOV Spectre? You know, the one where actually discussing?

No,and frankly,if you've been under the impression that all Spectre feats are applicable in this debate, you've missed the whole point of this thread.

Oh yeah, I'd bring up several of Spectre's low-showings,however as many did not occur in DOV, i won't, as i understand the threads intention.

Try it some time 😉

Originally posted by Xzpunisher
A better fight would of been PS vs RKT
RKT would still lose, but at least he would last more then 3 seconds

RKT would beat Phantom Stranger

Shazams level of power is beyond RKT, so thats flawed ABC logic.
Remember OMNIPOTENT mastery of Magic

Originally posted by jrodslam
Outright killing his opponents wasnt completely his goal. His goal was to eliminate magic, and as he was doing that, magic was getting weaker as a whole. I dont feel he lacked the ability at all. Why outright kill Billy/Cap when Shazam would just find another avatar? Id go for the wizard as well. He did that(although he didnt clearly get rid of his spirit). Why kill Hawk and Dove? He killed their source and they were powerless after. Why didnt he attack other sources? Beats me. Maybe others didnt have a direct "source" of power to eliminate, thus getting rid of others, would make his job easier.

If your goal was to destroy all magic,why leave any loose ends and not just obliterate every one involved in magic?

Because DOV lacked the power.Both Phantom Stranger and Nabu escaped their initial imprisonments.

Originally posted by Warlord
RKT would beat Phantom Stranger
Right RKT is going to beat a guy that even the Spectre couldnt get rid, and dont even bring in that whole turning him into a mouse crap.

PS has hung with the Spectre also, that puts him beyond RKT realm of power

Originally posted by Martian_mind
If your goal was to destroy all magic,why leave any loose ends and not just obliterate every one involved in magic?

Because DOV lacked the power.Both Phantom Stranger and Nabu escaped their initial imprisonments.

Because the Presence sent him into a new host after he killed Nabu