Originally posted by KingD19
Anakin did nothing but fly a speeder, and Obi-Wan fell after her, and other mundane chase things, as calm as they were the whole time, they were not out of focus with the Force.
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I hope you're joking. I guess your forgot about Obi Wan about crapping his pants while with Anakin and Anakin effin' CRASHING his speeder and stumbling towards the bar. I'll give you Obi Wan being calm cool and collected, but your logic still doesn't explain the fact that the dart was not aimed at either Obi or Anakin and they weren't focused on preserving the Changling's life like Padme's.
Also, we can say it was PIS by George Lucas, there's plenty of that in the movies. 🙂
Another point, which I don't really buy into, is Jango and Bobba effectively mess up force users, which allows them to pull of things that normally cannot be done to a force user. He thinks that they are special and nullify
Originally posted by KingD19
Besides, two powerful jedi would not be so easily distracted.
They can and they were. 😐
They were distracted and didn't use the force, which would be child's play for even regular Jedis to sense that incoming dart.
Originally posted by KingD19
Also, they're supposed to sense danger, regardless. Those slugs that would have killed Padme weren't trying to kill Anakin and Obi-Wan, but they sensed it.
1. They weren't slugs.
2. You just proved my point, bro. They sensed those centipede things with no problem. It was either they were distracted, or it was PIS. (I'm betting on some massive PIS, but I did provide some logic to justify George's stupidity.)
Originally posted by KingD19
And I said they can use their abilities to block blaster bolts, and I didn't mention it, but yes, in saber fighting as well, I thought that was a given, my mistake.
Cool.
Originally posted by KingD19
When Obi-Wan was fired on, he didn't expect, otherwise he wouldn't have gone out that way, he simply reacted by letting the Force flow through his body, which is how he blocked the shots. The Force helping him predict the aim of the shots, and giving him sufficient speed to block them.
True, for the most part. It was more like Obi trying to be in tune with the force in a situation that he knew was going to be dangerous, whereas, with that changling, they disabled the changling and were only interested in gathering information...which could explain the PIS moment from George, like I did above.
Originally posted by KingD19
And seeing into the future and battle precog are closely related. Maul could supposedly see into the future to know where Kurt is attacking. Same thing with his precog. I simply don't see that happening, anticipating his attacks without TP, yes, but with it, no.
TP?
Toilet paper?
teehee. awesome
And, yes, "battle precog" should work just fine and dandy to predict where NC will pop-up, just like anything else we see the force user's do. For instance, Luke Skywalker, only after minutes of training, predicted the shots fired, completely blind, from that training droid, on the Falcon. That's was with mere minutes of training with Obi Wan. Do you know what that means? Hmmmmmm? That means that Maul doesn't even have to see where NC is coming from, he can automatically anticipate it. 😐
Originally posted by KingD19
Someone mentioned that Kurt ported through another dimension. That is true(In the comics it's his fathers dimension, but I won't bore you with that.) And in the EU, Jedi can't feel the Force on someone from another dimension or outside of known space, while it is EU, it's safe to assume the same can be applied here. Kurt teleporting through a different dimension, means he's no longer connected to the Force until he gets back.
That was me who originally brought it up.
And, no, you can't use anything EU (And I have no clue what you're talking about. Where do we get people from another universe in the EU?). If the thread starter wanted to say that the force is completely dead when it comes to NC, then the thread starter would specify. What sense is there to do a versus if each character cannot use their movie abilities against each other? In other words, you can't gimp one or the other just so you can chose one that will win.
Originally posted by KingD19
And Rogue, don't bring that stating bull up, his powers, just like everybody else(except Juggernaut's), powers are exactly the same, there's no reason to say it isn't. And why do you think he produces smoke? Because that's the atmosphere of his dimension, the bamf noise is gases, the smoke is from his home dimension, as is the smell.
Rogue can do whatever he wants in this thread, he started it. Since we have NO confirming facts from the movie (no one ever says, and it is never explicitly stated) that NC is going into a different dimension, it is up to the thread starter to decide if we can use logic from the comics to explain where he is going and coming from.
I think RJ was already quite clear about not incorporating the comic's explanation of the smoke from the movie. So, we can't use it. If you want to make your own thread, just like this one, but with different rules, that's fine. 😄
Edit - I just read the rest of the thread. Get back on topic, douches.