Originally posted by Robtard
Disagree and agree.The S-sense has warned him of attacks from the rear and given him enough time (because of his physical abilities) to get out of the way/counter.
Perfect example was when he was on his scooter and the banks robbers where about to run his ass over, S-sense gave him the split second he needed to flip up and over, out of harms way.
So it stands to reason he wouldn't have been shot in the back by a clone(which I think was the original point here). He couldn't have done anything about the Sith takeover on the whole, you're right about that.
I agree, to a point. However, the clones were made to be able to take down the Jedi, it was in their DNA and training. Also, I highly doubt Spiderman could dodge the deadeye blasterbolts that would redden the sky with a blanket of murder. (lol, like that last part?)
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Lets say you and I are fighting, and you are winning. Then you realize that we are in a minefield. Your attention is obviously gonna stray from fighting me to watching your footing, right?
It wasn't just that. Palps was supposedly clouding the force. The dark side is considered a leech, if you will. That is why Anaking was SUPPOSED to be the one to bring balance to the force. The Jedi were losing their way in Arrogance and corruption while the Dark Side was realizing it's most powerful user ever.
Also, some DID foresee the extermination of the Jedi, to an extent. See it, Yoda did.
Why did this end up as a starwars discussion, irrelevant to the topic, again?
Originally posted by dadudemonThat's my point, the Jedi had alot of shit going on at the time. You just worded it fancier.
It wasn't just that. Palps was supposedly clouding the force. The dark side is considered a leech, if you will. That is why Anaking was SUPPOSED to be the one to bring balance to the force. The Jedi were losing their way in Arrogance and corruption while the Dark Side was realizing it's most powerful user ever.Also, some DID foresee the extermination of the Jedi, to an extent. See it, Yoda did.
Why did this end up as a starwars discussion, irrelevant to the topic, again?
Darth Maul is a combatant here, so yeah, SW is gonna come up.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
That's my point, the Jedi had alot of shit going on at the time. You just worded it fancier.Darth Maul is a combatant here, so yeah, SW is gonna come up.
Well, reverse the scenario, make millions of clones that have sneaky DNA training designed to take out Spiderman, then Spiderman, even if there were tons, would go down much faster than the Jedi because a Jedi Knight>Spiderman, on any given Sunday.
Originally posted by dadudemonEdit- John is my friend in the real world. Sure, his logic is ****ed up sometimes, but he's right at other times as well. I think it would be wise for both sides to lay off of the personal insults for a while as niether one of you are bad dudes...you're just at eachother's throats too much lately.
Fair enough.
Maybe he should start being right sometimes here online then. 😛
I think it'd be wise too. He kept levelling digs at me, of course, I was always gonna have had to responded.
BTW in this instance, I responded to the sheer audacity of his "Im whiter than white ruleswise" self aggrandising appraisal. Thats why I responded.
Because of the outrage.
To say "Name one rule Ive broken" about yourself when you have the repeated breaking (Not bending as he would maintain) of the forum rules on flaming and attempting to EU every other thread relating to SW....? Well its too tempting. Far too tempting to list them in the face of such own-back-patting smugness.
Still. Its history now.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthYou still havent shown me where I tried to EU any SW thread. I stick to movie facts and movie facts only when discussing SW here. I dont mention Mace Windu's use of vappad, I dont bring up Darth Bane, I dont use the Solo children in my arguments.
Fair enough.Maybe he should start being right sometimes here online then. 😛
I think it'd be wise too. He kept levelling digs at me, of course, I was always gonna have had to responded.
BTW in this instance, I responded to the sheer audacity of his "Im whiter than white ruleswise" self aggrandising appraisal. Thats why I responded.
Because of the outrage.
To say "Name one rule Ive broken" about yourself when you have the repeated breaking (Not bending as he would maintain) of the forum rules on flaming and attempting to EU every other thread relating to SW....? Well its too tempting. Far too tempting to list them in the face of such own-back-patting smugness.
Still. Its history now.
This is the part where you link us an example of me "EUing" a SW thread. No more "You do it in every SW thread!!!" If you cannot SHOW us where I did it, then put a cork in it.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Fair enough.
Cool. 👆
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Maybe he should start being right sometimes here online then. 😛
😆 😆
You cheeky bastard.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I think it'd be wise too. He kept levelling digs at me, of course, I was always gonna have had to responded.
Hm. Well, from what I see, RJ doesn't start these things first, usually. Now, you and others have a different take on it. You cite RJ's immaturity as specific instigation, which is true. However, since this isn't 3rd grade anymore, RJ being immature shouldn't piss anyone off. As adults, you should ignore him, or join in.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
BTW in this instance, I responded to the sheer audacity of his "Im whiter than white ruleswise" self aggrandising appraisal. Thats why I responded.
Cool.
Because of the outrage.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
To say "Name one rule Ive broken" about yourself when you have the repeated breaking (Not bending as he would maintain) of the forum rules on flaming and attempting to EU every other thread relating to SW....? Well its too tempting. Far too tempting to list them in the face of such own-back-patting smugness.Still. Its history now.
Indeed, it's history. Both of you were getting a bit too personal on the insults. It's cool to call me ugly, arrogant, etc. because it's true and I roll with the punches because it keeps it fun. I wouldn't have it any other way. However, when things start getting personal with other types of insults that the poster is obviously not okay with, it turns into a flame war and it's no longer fun, especially when the two posters are most everyone's buds. I'm quite sure RJ wouldn't get pissed about you calling him an immature cracker, or a red neck nerd. He'd roll with them. Try using those when he pisses you off.
Edit- You probably don't need to be counseled by me and I apologize if it comes off as insulting. That's not my intentions. My intention is to lessen the personal stuff coming from both directions.
In my personal opinion, I think it's perfectly okay to call someone an idiot for a specific ideology. You can say, "You're an idiot if you think Luke Skywalker used light side brain washing technique to get Darth Vader to pick up the Emperor and throw up down a shaft." Or, "You're a retard if you think movie Mace Windu can take out an entire droid army with only his fists."
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You still havent shown me where I tried to EU any SW thread. I stick to movie facts and movie facts only when discussing SW here. I dont mention Mace Windu's use of vappad, I dont bring up Darth Bane, I dont use the Solo children in my arguments.This is the part where you link us an example of me "EUing" a SW thread. No more "You do it in every SW thread!!!" If you cannot SHOW us where I did it, then put a cork in it.
Hmm. I think this stems from EU Luke being included in a debate before against Neo.
Originally posted by dadudemonYou think I dont know that? And in my defense, I kept my argument as EU free as possible. I used only force powers that Luke displayed in the movies, and basic force powers that even a padawan knows. No, Luke is never shown using force speed or force pull, but think about this:Hmm. I think this stems from EU Luke being included in a debate before against Neo.
Lets say you start a Neo versus Terminator thread, each armed with a 12 gauge. Then I say "Neo has never been shown using a 12 gauge, therefore he cant use one here."
How stupid is that? It's trivial shit like that that ruins the mood here. Now I can sense someone saying "NC jumps to another dimension zomg!!!"......Big difference there, that's speculating to the point of rewriting the script yourself.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You think I dont know that? And in my defense, I kept my argument as EU free as possible. I used only force powers that Luke displayed in the movies, and basic force powers that even a padawan knows. No, Luke is never shown using force speed or force pull, but think about this:Lets say you start a Neo versus Terminator thread, each armed with a 12 gauge. Then I say "Neo has never been shown using a 12 gauge, therefore he cant use one here."
How stupid is that? It's trivial shit like that that ruins the mood here. Now I can sense someone saying "NC jumps to another dimension zomg!!!"......Big difference there, that's speculating to the point of rewriting the script yourself.
I'm wasn't criticizing you, I was positing a reason for the "rules" discussion taking place.
It doesn't matter, anyway, because Imp. said we could use EU Luke because it because it was a retarded match up for Movie Luke, only.