If you'd all like an argument as to why Ragnos is the best, I strongly urge you to seek out Janus or Nai. I would recommend that you take note of the argument; because you'll see them both take opposite stances when similar circumstances are applied to other characters. For example, Naga Sadow and Ludo Kressh fearing Ragnos was once part of his accolades, since the fear is a sign of inferiority. But Dooku being even more frightened of Sidious than they were of Ragnos is not a sign of inferiority, but bad writing. And Kreia's statement in the second KotOR game? The one about how the ancient Sith would make the duelists of that era seem as though they were children playing with toys? That's valid, because Kreia -- for that moment -- was omniscient. Now the statement given by narrators and historical councils of vast superpowers with greater resources and knowledge than one woman? Those aren't valid at all.
On the other hand, if you're looking for a convincing argument for Ragnos, you're out of luck.
No offense Gideon, but could you keep your issues with Jaunus and Nai out of this thread. Hewhoknowsall asked what is known about Ragnos and you respond by criticizing Janus and Nai yet they haven't said anything in this thread. Keep the hostility in the thread that is already in now but there is no need to spread it.
Originally posted by Elite Hunter
No offense Gideon, but could you keep your issues with Jaunus and Nai out of this thread. Hewhoknowsall asked what is known about Ragnos and you respond by criticizing Janus and Nai yet they haven't said anything in this thread. Keep the hostility in the thread that is already in now but there is no need to spread it.
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Originally posted by Elite Hunter
No offense Gideon, but could you keep your issues with Jaunus and Nai out of this thread. Hewhoknowsall asked what is known about Ragnos and you respond by criticizing Janus and Nai yet they haven't said anything in this thread. Keep the hostility in the thread that is already in now but there is no need to spread it.
The tenor was the same: skepticism for an argument made for Ragnos.
I provided a response that directed the skeptics to a place where the argument could be made, while simultaneously pointing out that they wouldn't find a convincing one.
But you have my word, father, it won't happen again.
Originally posted by CadoAngelus
I'd say thats a very valid point. Simply because Galen trains with a robot capable of "replicating" characters fighting styles, doesn't mean he'll have the advantage. For instance, Qui-Gon could decide to completely mess his tactics around to that particular fight and completely mind-**** Galen, or he could fight like a boring old tart...Stating that Galen has the hand because he's fought Qui-Gon before but Qui-Gon hasn't fought Galen is flawed...Galens not fought any of the people PROXY replicates...apart from Vader
Well stated CadoAngelus!!!
Originally posted by Nephthys
Marek knows Ataru enough to be able to duel with it and has been stated to have 'mastered lightsaber combat'. There's nothing to suggest that he would be taken aback by a style that knows inside and out.
and there's nothing to suggest that he wouldn't...they're both very powerful individuals, both with very different ways of applying their skills and power in battle...
Your quote please.
'PROXY didn't stay still for a second, attacking from the ground, the walls, the ceiling, even from midair. It was like watching a dance, but one in which the slightest slip could mean death. Starkiller danced with him long enough for her to worry, then he changed his style to match that of the droids- and suddenly she could see the difference between the human and the mechanical. Where PROXY had been fast, Starkiller was graceful as well. Where PROXY had simply slashed and stabbed, Sarkiller applied flourishes to his offensive strikes. Where every move PROXY made involved his entire body, Starkiller could launch an attack with one, or block by shifting his foot a single centimeter'
PROXY's clearly fighting with Ataru, which Starkiller emulates and exceeds.
Originally posted by Nephthys
It's in the database of the game, which is held as having omniscient status. It was ages ago that it was brought up so all I can remember of it is that Gideon approved it.I can't get the actual quote right now becuase I have the red ring of death, but someone else can hopefully provide it . hopes
The game's official databank, the official Star Wars databank, and the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia say that he "all but perfected the art of lightsaber combat" or "mastered the lightsaber" depending on the source.