Death Star Galen Marek vs Qui-Gon Jinn

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Originally posted by Gideon
The game's official databank, the official Star Wars databank, and the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia say that he "all but perfected the art of lightsaber combat"...

Yeah that's what I recall. The term "all but perfected the art of lightsaber combat" doesn't = mastered lightsaber combat. It means just what it says, no more and no less. Basically that he was extremely proficient, but not quite a master duelist.

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And what about the quote that read's: 'he mastered the lightsaber'. And how does Jinn even remotely compare to either of these quotes.

Hey guys, I just learned that

the word QUOTE is a verb.

the word QUOTATION is the noun.

so ex: I am quoting someone. (verb so use the word quote)

"Bruce Lee is a God"

that is a quotation, not a quote.

just thought I'd share. lol

Originally posted by kotorfan
Hey guys, I just learned that

the word QUOTE is a verb.

the word QUOTATION is the noun.

so ex: I am quoting someone. (verb so use the word quote)

"Bruce Lee is a God"

that is a quotation, not a quote.

just thought I'd share. lol

My life has sooo much more meaning now. Thank you !

Originally posted by Nephthys
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And what about the quote that read's: 'he mastered the lightsaber'. And how does Jinn even remotely compare to either of these quotes.

Well, what's the source? Source validity is highly important.

Originally posted by kotorfan
Hey guys, I just learned that

the word QUOTE is a verb.

the word QUOTATION is the noun.

so ex: I am quoting someone. (verb so use the word quote)

"Bruce Lee is a God"

that is a quotation, not a quote.

just thought I'd share. lol

And I just learned that one should begin the first word of all sentences with a capital letter. Damn grammar!!!

Well, what's the source? Source validity is highly important.

Gideon, the ultimate sauce-

The game's official databank, the official Star Wars databank, and the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia say that he "all but perfected the art of lightsaber combat" or "mastered the lightsaber" depending on the source.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Gideon, the ultimate sauce-

The game's official databank, the official Star Wars databank, and the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia say that he "all but perfected the art of lightsaber combat" or [b]"mastered the lightsaber" depending on the source. [/B]

He does have that sauciness to him kinda like Roz from Frasier. Hahahaha... 😛

Originally posted by Nephthys
"all but perfected the art of lightsaber combat"

This statement is grammatically incorrect. If you're trying to defend Galen, then you fail. This statement suggests he knew everything apart from lightsaber combat...

Originally posted by CadoAngelus
This statement is grammatically incorrect. If you're trying to defend Galen, then you fail. This statement suggests he knew everything apart from lightsaber combat...
omg i wish i wur az geenyus ass u

srsly man


This statement is grammatically incorrect. If you're trying to defend Galen, then you fail. This statement suggests he knew everything apart from lightsaber combat...

That's a euphemism, so it's not intended as a literal sentence. That and it's backed up by the quote that he 'mastered the lightsaber' (another euphemism).

Originally posted by Nephthys
Gideon, the ultimate sauce-

The game's official databank, the official Star Wars databank, and the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia say that he "all but perfected the art of lightsaber combat" or [b]"mastered the lightsaber" depending on the source. [/B]

Star Wars official databank: "the apprentice all but perfected the fine art of lightsaber combat"

S.W. TFU Databank: "The apprentice has all but perfected..."

S.W.C.E.: ?

As mentioned earlier, "all but perfected means he DIDN't perfect the fine art of lightsaber combat. It's plain as day. He was an excellent dualist, but not of the level many here believe.

Originally posted by CadoAngelus
This statement is grammatically incorrect. If you're trying to defend Galen, then you fail. This statement suggests he knew everything apart from lightsaber combat...

Thanks CadoAngelus! I also pointed this important little detail out yesterday, and again today. Details, details, details damnit.. they're there for a reason.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That's a euphemism, so it's not intended as a literal sentence. That and it's backed up by the quote that he 'mastered the lightsaber' (another euphemism).

I've busted two possible sources. That means there's ONE left, and it's of a less credible status than the first two.

Originally posted by CadoAngelus
This statement is grammatically incorrect. If you're trying to defend Galen, then you fail. This statement suggests he knew everything apart from lightsaber combat...

What sort of school do you attend? Someone needs to kick your school board's collective ass.

The statement "all but perfected the art of lightsaber combat" means, quite simply, that he achieved every level of it except perfection. That's an extremely high accolade.

Star Wars official databank: "the apprentice all but perfected the fine art of lightsaber combat"

S.W. TFU Databank: "The apprentice has all but perfected..."

S.W.C.E.: ?

As mentioned earlier, "all but perfected means he DIDN't perfect the fine art of lightsaber combat. It's plain as day. He was an excellent dualist, but not of the level many here believe.

Do you even know what the term 'perfect' means. To have 'perfected the art of lightsaber combat' Marek would have had to be at the highest level possible with each form (think Obi-won with Soresu level) and with all lightsaber styles (single, double, dual, whip, staff and police stick thing). To even Approach that level of mastery is fantastically impressive, and nothing to sneer at.

Once again, provide proof that Qui-Gon Jinn even remotely aproaches this level of skill or get the hell out of the debate, because you really are starting to embarrass yourself now and my gloves are officially off.

And stop effing ignoring the second quote, you're not fooling anyone.

Edit: Thank you Gideon.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That's a euphemism, so it's not intended as a literal sentence. That and it's backed up by the quote that he 'mastered the lightsaber' (another euphemism).

Whaaaaa? Are you kidding. What qualifies you to make this kind of gramatical judgement? Of course it's meant to be taken just as it's written. It's not poetry.

Respond to the posts immediately above yours, please.

I am disappointed by this entire forum. The attempts to claim grammar and the poorly executed... well, everything is making me sad. You've driven me to my hugbox. 🙁

A quote from Wookiepedia:

"In addition to his mastery of the Force, Qui-Gon was also a master in Form IV: Ataru, often having sparred with Master Mace Windu; it is said that neither actually managed to out duel the other. The Jedi lightsaber master who taught Qui-Gon had considered him the best lightsaber duelist he had seen in over 400 years of teaching in the Jedi Order. His deep-rooted strength and compassion was fueled by the Force, and this was reflected in his lightsaber style, a style that needs precision and smoothness of movement. It is interesting to note his choice of Ataru despite sparring with Mace Windu, the creator of Form VII: Vaapad, and being apprenticed to Count Dooku, a master of Form II: Makashi."

Another quote from Wookiepedia:

"Marek was trained in lightsaber combat by Darth Vader, sparring frequently with his master, and having many vicious bouts with his training droid, PROXY. Galen's skill with the lightsaber was also great enough for him to defeat all of PROXY's training programs replicating legendary duelists such as Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker and Darth Maul. Whenever on the defensive, Marek was utilize the Soresu form, deliberately imitating the method utilized by Obi-Wan Kenobi. On the offensive, Marek opted for Juyo, one of the most aggressive forms. Marek was also skilled in the Form V variant known as 'Sith Shien', a style that relied on rapid attacks.

Marek fought with an unorthodox Shien-style reverse grip."