Originally posted by theICONiac
Your location is quite appropriate, as it also describes your posts.The only thing you are absolutely right on is in the stamina dept. Strength??? I completely disagree with.
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You're the one who said you conceded to my post...
I'm completely right.
Colossus has fought the likes of Savage Hulk, Gladiator etc. and held his own. He even fared rather impressively against World War Hulk as I recall they traded some punches. World War Hulk resorted to breaking his arms.
Colossus is a mid level Class 100.
Durability wise, I'm also right.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😕You're the one who said you conceded to my post...
I'm completely right.
Colossus has fought the likes of Savage Hulk, Gladiator etc. and held his own. He even fared rather impressively against World War Hulk as I recall they traded some punches. World War Hulk resorted to breaking his arms.
Colossus is a mid level Class 100.
Durability wise, I'm also right.
😆 No, no, no....he fared 'rather impressively' against WWH?? Did you read X-Men/WWH??
I conceded to ONE part of your post...that Colossus (whatEVER version it is) has more Stamina than ANY version of the Thing.
Durability-wise? I don't know enough about Spikey-Thing's durability to comment...hence the 'maybe'.
Originally posted by theICONiac
😆 No, no, no....he fared 'rather impressively' against WWH?? Did you read X-Men/WWH??I conceded to ONE part of your post...that Colossus (whatEVER version it is) has more Stamina than ANY version of the Thing.
Durability-wise? I don't know enough about Spikey-Thing's durability to comment...hence the 'maybe'.
Compared to how others fared, he did. I recall them actually trading blows for a few pages, back and forth.
Colossus is more durable, stronger, has more stamina etc. than either the Thing or the Spiked Thing.
This is obvious.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Compared to how others fared, he did. I recall them actually trading blows for a few pages, back and forth.Colossus is more durable, stronger, has more stamina etc. than either the Thing or the Spiked Thing.
This is obvious.
🤪 How is this obvious???
More stamina? I agree. More durable? Well, steel is naturally more durable than most rock, so you are probably right.
But stronger??? Please provide...SOMETHING...other than saying it over and over...Colossus was beaten by WWH with brute strength. This in no way proves that he is stronger than Spikey Thing.
Originally posted by theICONiac
🤪 How is this obvious???More stamina? I agree. More durable? Well, steel is naturally more durable than most rock, so you are probably right.
But stronger??? Please provide...SOMETHING...other than saying it over and over...Colossus was beaten by WWH with brute strength. This in no way proves that he is stronger than Spikey Thing.
It is obvious.
There are many examples that he is stronger than the Thing. The fact that he has hung with Gladiator, the fact that he has hung with Savage Hulk and even downed him with his blows. The fact that he has taken on Juggernaut, and has even held his own in the past.
I already said all this by the way.
He is obviously superior to the Thing in the strength, durability part is as clear as day. You have to oblivious not to see it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It is obvious.There are many examples that he is stronger than the Thing. The fact that he has hung with Gladiator, the fact that he has hung with Savage Hulk and even downed him with his blows. The fact that he has taken on Juggernaut, and has even held his own in the past.
I already said all this by the way.
He is obviously superior to the Thing in the strength, durability part is as clear as day. You have to oblivious not to see it.
Jesus-ate-a-can-of-beans! 😠
Did you forget we're talking about super-amped Spikey Thing? Not 'normal' Thing? Please provide proof Colossus is stronger than Spikey Thing.
Originally posted by theICONiac
Jesus-ate-a-can-of-beans! 😠Did you forget we're talking about super-amped Spikey Thing? Not 'normal' Thing? Please provide proof Colossus is stronger than Spikey Thing.
What is wrong with you?
Show me something from either Spiked Thing or regular Thing that trumps what I listed and what Colossus has done?
Please provide me something to show that Spiked Thing can hang with either Juggernaut, Gladiator or Savage Hulk for a time?
The feat less wonder, Spiked Thing gets turned into a smear.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What is wrong with you?Show me something from either Spiked Thing or regular Thing that trumps what I listed and what Colossus has done?
Please provide me something to show that Spiked Thing can hang with either Juggernaut, Gladiator or Savage Hulk for a time?
The feat less wonder, Spiked Thing gets turned into a smear.
*sigh*
Spikey Thing OWNED grey hulk. Plain and simple. Even though grey hulk starts at baseline class 70, his strength increases exponentially the madder he gets (like every other version of the hulk). Grey hulk recognized that even though he was REALLY mad (and henceforth REALLY strong...maybe class 100 at that point?) he could not get mad fast enough to eclipse the Thing in strength before he was completely beaten...due to the Things' enhanced abilities (Thing was originally at class 85, and was MUCH stronger now). He had to resort to using the Thing's lack of stamina (and agility, mobility etc) in order to win.
Colossus was beaten by WWH. I fail to see how his failure makes him stronger than Spikey Thing.
Your move...
Originally posted by theICONiac
*sigh*Spikey Thing OWNED grey hulk. Plain and simple. Even though grey hulk starts at baseline class 70, his strength increases exponentially the madder he gets (like every other version of the hulk). Grey hulk recognized that even though he was REALLY mad (and henceforth REALLY strong...maybe class 100 at that point?) he could not get mad fast enough to eclipse the Thing in strength before he was completely beaten...due to the Things' enhanced abilities (Thing was originally at class 85, and was MUCH stronger now). He had to resort to using the Thing's lack of stamina (and agility, mobility etc) in order to win.
Colossus was beaten by WWH. I fail to see how his failure makes him stronger than Spikey Thing.
Your move...
Downing Savage Hulk, hanging with Savage Hulk. Stalemating Gladiator to an extent, hanging with Juggernaut etc. is all much more impressive then being stronger than Joe Fixit.
Colossus was actually trading blows with World War Hulk for a few pages. That more than almost anyone had achieved in that event. I'm not basing the fact that Colossus is stronger on this. When did I ever say this?
I am basing that Colossus is stronger on the fact that he obviously has superior feats than either regular or Spiked Thing.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Downing Savage Hulk, hanging with Savage Hulk. Stalemating Gladiator to an extent, hanging with Juggernaut etc. is all much more impressive then being stronger than Joe Fixit.Colossus was actually trading blows with World War Hulk for a few pages. That more than almost anyone had achieved in that event. I'm not basing the fact that Colossus is stronger on this. When did I ever say this?
I am basing that Colossus is stronger on the fact that he obviously has superior feats than either regular or Spiked Thing.
'Colossus was actually trading blows with World War Hulk for a few pages. That more than almost anyone had achieved in that event.'
Nope...Juggernaut stalemated him...Colossus did not.
Grey Hulk handled the Abomination during the 'Countdown' storyline (Incredible Hulk #364-367) MUCH more easily than Spikey Thing. Is Colossus stronger than Abomination???
Check and mate.
Originally posted by theICONiac
'Colossus was actually trading blows with World War Hulk for a few pages. That more than almost anyone had achieved in that event.'Nope...Juggernaut stalemated him...Colossus did not.
Grey Hulk handled the Abomination during the 'Countdown' storyline (Incredible Hulk #364-367) MUCH more easily than Spikey Thing. Is Colossus stronger than Abomination???
Check and mate.
He actually traded blows with him for a few pages. Did you actually read the comic?
I never said he stalemated him. What is wrong with you?
Again, I will repeat, what is wrong with you?
Abomination sometimes is a joke, and sometimes his not. It really depends.
Want to use that type of logic?
Gladiator, can crush entire Stars, pulverize planets and Colossus actually stalemated him and Gladiator barely one as I recall.
Savage Hulk would crush Spiked Thing, and would crush the 200 ton Abomination if angry enough. He would also plow through Grey Hulk.
Colossus was able to down him, and Hulk himself said, he would have been a good match for him in the past.
"Check and mate".
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You see I can do it too. A, B, C logic. Gotta love it. Works both ways.
Seriously though, Colossus has handed Abomination his ass in the past if I recall. Colossus would hand the Spiked Thing his ass as well.
Read what he said more carefully, more than almost anyone had achieved. Not more. Zom Strange, Juggs, and Sentry were the only ones who did better than Colossus. One had the power of one of the most feared entities in the Marvel universe, one was empowered by a demonic god to be an engine of unstoppable destruction, and the last has the power of a million exploding suns. Considering all Colossus can do is turn to metal, I say he did pretty well.
And Colossus bashed Abominations face in, it was stated, it happened off panel, but the guy clearly said. That metal guy bashed his face in.
And Abomination is stuck at 100 tons.
'He actually traded blows with him for a few pages. Did you actually read the comic?'
Yup...Colossus is a superstar because he traded blows with WWH...so what???
'Again, I will repeat, what is wrong with you?'
Trying to battle ignorance is all...
'Abomination sometimes is a joke, and sometimes his not. It really depends.'
So why doesn't this logic apply to Colossus???
'Savage Hulk would crush Spiked Thing, and would crush the 200 ton Abomination if angry enough. He would also plow through Grey Hulk.'
Savage would 'crush' Spikey Thing??? Based on what???