Originally posted by LLLLLinksorry but i dont have to prove that mortal draw wouldnt kill him, it is up to you to prove that it will, im just saying that (apart from the magic f@#king armor) zeros armor is far more durrable than any other armor in that LoZ verse, i mean link can easily just cut it off....you cant do that to zeros armor so your statement that link breaks off armor is fail their armor has seams that are weak. and zero has done things that is way more impresive than stopping a goron that has absolutely momentum just his raw strength, i think tossing 3 story tall maverics is much much more impressive than that.
Seriously guys. You are pitting your "vastly superior to anything in the LoZ universe" Zero against a NAKED and ignorant Link and still havent shown anything to beat him yet.Insinuations like, "Hylian shield cant block plasma" and "Mortal draw wont kill Zero" are statements to which no proof has been provided. Until some proof shows, Im considering the lasers blocked and Zero dead.
Heh, Link can manhandle Zero with his unnatural strength (Goron miniboss fight, anyone?).
As far as armor goes, Link breaks off enemy armor in his sleep (Darknut, Iron knuckle, Argorok, ect.)
Zero's armor is far beyond anything Link has ever seen, eh? How about the Magic Armor which is impervious to attack provided the wearer has rupees to feed the magic. Seems to be the other way around to me.
also look at the opponents zero has defeted compared to the ones link has (apart from ganon) none of them are as strong or as huge as a lot of the boss' zero has fought. and the Z-saber would most deffinitely cut thru the highrule shield, it cuts through maveric armor....wich is an extremely durrable metal alloy made thousands of years in the futur from our time...yeah the highrule shield would just melt at the sight of it.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteyou do realize that it wasnt link that was overpowering ganon in TP right? it was whats her face the twilight princes, it was her strength that did it for him, if you try to do it without her he just plows over you, also pitting someone that only link and zelda can beet just isnt fair, of course zero cant beet ganon he doesnt have the mastersword, peice of the tryforce, or light arrows. thats why when i compare things that link has done compared to things that zero has done i ignore most of the ganon fight.
Let's not discount Link casually chopping arrows out of the air in TP, either. Like any of his incarnations his reaction time is clearly superhuman, and I doubt Zero could physicly overpower Ganon, ever.
Edit: and also cutting arrows in mid air is not all that impresive, ive seen real people do that.
@Niduin; I reiterate, swinging something unbreakable with enough force against something that is breakable will break the breakable thing, in this case, Zero. And Tossing a maverick vs tossing a Goron is meh, the goron is probably heavier, tbh =P eitherway it's comparable, but given that Link overpowered Ganon, my money is on him. I have yet to math it, though. Zero's been harmed by far weaker foes than Link.
As to this whole argument that Zero's armour and weapons are high tech and therefore omgtoogoodfortheZeldaverse, let's just remind you what happens anytime magic and technology try to override each other, magic wins. Furthermore; Link's equipment's been exposed to 'plasma' [fast moving air, lol] many times, and really he doesn't need the sheild for this, imho. The sword will peirce Zero's armour.
Massive fail on the Ganon fight reference, Niduin. Link clearly bears down on his sword and overpowers G-dorf.
Master Sword>Zero armor
Even the "Man of Steel" gets cut by magic swords. The Master Sword will eventually beat Zero, either by Link outswording him or by reflect Zero's own artillery back at him. Zero takes damage from much weaker things than the Master Sword anyway...
you do realize that it wasnt link that was overpowering ganon in TP right? it was whats her face the twilight princes, it was her strength that did it for him, if you try to do it without her he just plows over you, also pitting someone that only link and zelda can beet just isnt fair, of course zero cant beet ganon he doesnt have the mastersword, peice of the tryforce, or light arrows. thats why when i compare things that link has done compared to things that zero has done i ignore most of the ganon fight.In these debates plot device immortality like Ganon's is considered off, and Link still physicly overpowered him in the sword fight, no assistance, kthnx.
Edit: and also cutting arrows in mid air is not all that impresive, ive seen real people do that.I call much bs, sir. A slow moving arrow shot from a weak bow, with no intent to kill or wound anyone, and having someone else practice the exact timing with you to chop it out of the air is not the same thing, it's a cooperative effort using less than realistic conditions. An actual shot with intent to kill is moving very fast.
wow you guys are hypocrits, you say show proof and the last few posts have been, "link will win because he will" kind of posts, and no a goron is not heavyer than a fully armored mech 3 stories tall, a tank weighs roughly 50 tons, and one of those maverics would be at least close to that, you thing that a goron weighs that much?
Originally posted by ScreamPasteyeah sword fight when he is normal size not the huge ass pig.
In these debates plot device immortality like Ganon's is considered off, and Link still physicly overpowered him in the sword fight, no assistance, kthnx.I call much bs, sir. A slow moving arrow shot from a weak bow, with no intent to kill or wound anyone, and having someone else practice the exact timing with you to chop it out of the air is not the same thing, it's a cooperative effort using less than realistic conditions. An actual shot with intent to kill is moving very fast.
yeah its true that they arent the same thing, but who is to say that that person wouldnt do it in real life in those situations, even if they cant its not that much more impresive than what they do. my point was that link (by that feat) is pretty fast but not extraordinarily
Actually, given that gorons are made of stone, and solid, I'm 100% positive the goron is heavier, because he was ****ing huge. OoT Link is strong enough to casually stack tanks on one hand like pie plates, I'll Math the goron's weight later, but I'm betting it's above 100 tons. Also, Ganon in his human form disintegrates beings with single punches.
I understand your arrow point, but like I said, an arrow fired with intent to kill is on a whole different level than a stage arrow. =P
Originally posted by ScreamPasteno a stone that big would weigh at most a few thousand pounds, and its not like he stopped him easily, btw heavy armor like the armor in tanks is a lot heavyer than just rock.
Actually, given that gorons are made of stone, and solid, I'm 100% positive the goron is heavier, because he was ****ing huge. OoT Link is strong enough to casually stack tanks on one hand like pie plates, I'll Math the goron's weight later, but I'm betting it's above 100 tons. Also, Ganon in his human form disintegrates beings with single punches.I understand your arrow point, but like I said, an arrow fired with intent to kill is on a whole different level than a stage arrow. =P
i say again, yes it is different but not enough to make that much of a difference, if someone can do it in a staged performance that same person with enough practice could do it with an arrow with intent to kill infact im certain that it has been done in some battle somewhere. so saying link can do that is not an inpresive feat as far as defeating a cyborg built for extremely fast combat situations
no it is stated in the rules tha tyou cant use something like that, something that cannot be beaten, otherwise it is spite
Edit: and as for midna, that is technicaly unfair odds its 2 against one, so i would say no, now if he was just using her like he does in the game as just a tool then i would say yes