USA vs Roman Empire IN A WAR

Started by Hewhoknowsall19 pages

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
what if we assume that camp pendleton and its military personnel were transported by advanced human technology as a last ditch effort to safe a remnent of humanity before some advance alien race completely exterminates the human race.

Appearing from a time bubble from their apocalyptic future a handful of future military techs install and activate a temporal field around of camp pendleton, minutes/seconds before the alien attack is begun and pendleton is destroyed by their first initial bombardment. they activate a time shift only to have timed their jump off by a few secs the energy blast and the temporal field interact causing coordinates to become altered and sending camp pendleton into the out skirts of the roman empire.

the blast caused the tech to overload and be destroyed killing all but one tech, realizing instead of sending the base into a remote corner of the united states some 100,000 yrs. he has send them into the height of the roman empire running the risk of horribly altering the time stream. he now has to find the base commander and inform him of the future threat.

1. realizing altering the time stream is far better then complete planetary annihilation he searches for the base commander. their goal is to prepare humanity with future tech and knowledge to advance the world or the military base and their future ancestors sufficiently to fend of the alien invasion.

the problem is the local tribes peasants have started spreading rumors about gods, demon , strange foreigners invading the country.
the roman senate has sent troops, scouts to confirm the reports of the locals.

due to lack of communication negotiations break down and the war begins.

mission of the base is not complete annihilation or even the removal of ceaser they are needed in or order to help spread human advancement to fend off the alien invasion. in order to do that they need to defeat the roman armies.

This is assuming that we don't have the "oh you kill person X who's your ancestor so you die" because then that would be WAY too hard.

Hopefully he'd find the base commander, and then:

They'd capture Rome and convince the Romans that fighting them is futile, which is easy given the fact that the FUTURE army would have technology that suppases even ours. We'd then set up a democracy, which would be much more favorable than the Roman Empire, thus reducing the chance of rebellion. Therefore, they take control of Rome and have an extra 2000 + (however far into the future this military regiment is), which is more than enough to advance their tech by A LOT given the fact that Star Trek is but a few hundred years and yet they already have giant starships (not that movies are that reliable). If everything goes to plan, we could colonize the solar system (Galaxy?), have a population of hundreds of billions (trillions?), rebuild a time machine, go back to 100,000 years before, keep on advancing tech again and get to the original date and PWN the aliens.

so what if it is only a battalion that made it to the past?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
so what if it is only a battalion that made it to the past?

With future tech, they could REALLY scare the Romans into realizing that cooperation is far smarter than attempting to attack them. Sure; it's only 1 battalion, but even that (depending on how far into the future this is) should be enough to win by physiological fear, ie scare the Romans into submission, sort of like what early gunpowder did.

OK, since this is (admittenly my fault) a spite, let's do another senario(s):

Roman Empire vs Medieval Europe
British Empire vs Mongol Empire, Macedonian Empire and Persian Empire
Islamic Empire vs Medieval Europe
Han Dynasty vs Roman Empire
Medieval World vs Dinosaurs

Who wins?

No one interested?

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What discussion is still going on in here? Any modern day army would absolutely demolish any ancient one.

1 battalion of marines would demolish a 1,000,000 man roman army.

my battalion was only a little over 3,ooo i dont know if we could hold them off unless we had air and arty support and some tanks.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall

OK, since this is (admittenly my fault) a spite, let's do another senario(s):

Roman Empire vs Medieval Europe
British Empire vs Mongol Empire, Macedonian Empire and Persian Empire
Islamic Empire vs Medieval Europe
Han Dynasty vs Roman Empire
Medieval World vs Dinosaurs

Who wins?

Depends on what section of Medieval era
British
Already happened
Han
Endless stalemate

Originally posted by King Kandy
Depends on what section of Medieval era
British
Already happened
Han
Endless stalemate

High Medieval Ages
OK then
But if both were to rage an all out war on eachother to try and conquer eachother who would win?
I guess that makes sense, although the Romans were probably superior man to man...
But would humanity still be supreme? I'd say that at first the medieval people would be scared out of their minds, but then the pope would be like "these are evil demons that we must vanquish!" and calls a crusade against the dinosaurs in which case they burn down all of the dinosaur's habitats and drive them to extinction.

the romans were only superior man to man to guys like army, navy air force but not very likely to marine grunts or navy seal..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
the romans were only superior man to man to guys like army, navy air force but not very likely to marine grunts or navy seal..

I was talking about Han dynasty, obviously a Roman Legionary couldn't beat a modern day soldier.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
High Medieval Ages
OK then
But if both were to rage an all out war on eachother to try and conquer eachother who would win?
I guess that makes sense, although the Romans were probably superior man to man...
But would humanity still be supreme? I'd say that at first the medieval people would be scared out of their minds, but then the pope would be like "these are evil demons that we must vanquish!" and calls a crusade against the dinosaurs in which case they burn down all of the dinosaur's habitats and drive them to extinction.

Probably medieval Europe then.

In Islam vs. Medieval Europe i'd have to go with Islamic empires they had a lot more advancements in metalworking and the like and got most of the wins in the crusades (but I guess that could have been home-field advantage). One thing I give Medieval Europe credit for is their forests are well suited for guerrilla warfare as Rome found out. Islamic Empire has better city defenses, fortresses ect.

Han just has too many soldiers and the romans don't have much of a tech advantage unless we're taking the fight to the seas.

Yeah I suppose habitat destruction is the only option for the win as none of the weapons Europe is bringing to the table are really going to do much here except cannons (again depends on era). Does this take place in modern day earth or Pangaea? That could make a huge difference. What I see here mostly is Europe hiding around in some really well-walled cities and pretty much avoiding conflict.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Probably medieval Europe then.

In Islam vs. Medieval Europe i'd have to go with Islamic empires they had a lot more advancements in metalworking and the like and got most of the wins in the crusades (but I guess that could have been home-field advantage). One thing I give Medieval Europe credit for is their forests are well suited for guerrilla warfare as Rome found out. Islamic Empire has better city defenses, fortresses ect.

Han just has too many soldiers and the romans don't have much of a tech advantage unless we're taking the fight to the seas.

Yeah I suppose habitat destruction is the only option for the win as none of the weapons Europe is bringing to the table are really going to do much here except cannons (again depends on era). Does this take place in modern day earth or Pangaea? That could make a huge difference. What I see here mostly is Europe hiding around in some really well-walled cities and pretty much avoiding conflict.

Yeah, although Rome could probably solo any individual state.
Agreed.
I guess that's true.
Yeah, they'd be too scared to fight at first (and the dinosaurs if they were to want to eat the medieval people can't get through castles) but I'd imagine them going on a crusade to rid the world of "demons" and "dragons".

Agreed but how would they do it? Habitat destruction? If this is Pangaea they'd never take them all out and in terms of close combat Europe isn't bringing a single thing to the table that can take out the Dinosaurs.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Agreed but how would they do it? Habitat destruction? If this is Pangaea they'd never take them all out and in terms of close combat Europe isn't bringing a single thing to the table that can take out the Dinosaurs.
Smallpox. It's a known fact that the smaller something is, the more deadly it is to a dinosaur.

@Lucien

Or fire.

And rain. I've seen both.

@Whoever talked about a total war game spanning all of history

Yeah, that would be AWESOME! It would be like combining Total War w/ Civilization! Two of the best strategy franchises ever! At last the Pirate vs Ninja debate could be settled!

Originally posted by KidRock

1 battalion of marines would demolish a 1,000,000 man roman army.

Did you watch the opening of Gladiator?

What are they going to do against flaming arrows?
Especially as many as they fire at once.

I doubt one battalion does much.

Catapults too. 😄

Opening Battle Address to the Roman Cavalry

Gladiator - The Battle (VIDEO)

Our troops haven't fought on a real battlefield in a long time. They just occupy territories.

Originally posted by The Scribe
Did you watch the opening of Gladiator?

What are they going to do against flaming arrows?

Effortlessly gun down the people firing them?