Mandrakk/COIE Anti Monitor vs Lucifer Morningstar/Living Tribunal

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^but it doesnt matter what you think. you cant decide PIS unless you have read the thing under discussion. now, HAVE you read lucifer?????
and no, he categorically explained it and it was never denied, its truth and supported by instances of alternate dimensional versions of main characters appearing in the same reality from other parts of yahweh's creation.

again, HAVE YOU READ LUCIFER QUANCHI????

^i dont beleive you have read lucifer, i beleive you are positively lying since you have shown an extraordinary level of ignorance about lucifer.

just because you say it does not make it true, infact, in your case, it probably makes it false. it was not PIS, and most people who arent fanboys who havent even read lucifer but pretend otherwise, agree that the categoric explanation by lucifer is cannon. now, stop talking.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^i dont beleive you have read lucifer, i beleive you are positively lying since you have shown an extraordinary level of ignorance about lucifer.

just because you say it does not make it true, infact, in your case, it probably makes it false. it was not PIS, and most people who arent fanboys who havent even read lucifer but pretend otherwise, agree that the categoric explanation by lucifer is cannon. now, stop talking.

^i dont care what you hold firm to. on panel evidence proves you wrong. if you want to stick with fallacies, thats your choice.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^i dont care what you hold firm to. on panel evidence proves you wrong. if you want to stick with fallacies, thats your choice.

^panel says otherwise, lucifer says otherwise, mike carey says otherwise, alternate versions of dead characters in the series say otherwise. nirvana is part of the ACTUAL comic and written in continuity with mike carey who is the sole author of the entire lucifer series. you are nobody to claim otherwise. and you havent read lucifer so stop pretending already.

Originally posted by quanchi112
it was stated twice. In the actual comic it stated a universe. The scan you posted was pis imo.

^but quan hasnt even read lucifer and knows next to nothing about it............................................. nirvana is part of continuity

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^panel says otherwise, lucifer says otherwise, mike carey says otherwise, alternate versions of dead characters in the series say otherwise. nirvana is part of the ACTUAL comic and written in continuity with mike carey who is the sole author of the entire lucifer series. you are nobody to claim otherwise. and you havent read lucifer so stop pretending already.

Originally posted by Enyalus
True. I think what he says in Nirvana is an "inconsistint retcon"

Lucifer is a great read

Yeah. I loved the story. Not big on the art.

Nor was I on the durability of these seemingly supernatural beings. Being cut by steel rapiers and all.

Art was ok

Originally posted by quanchi112
Post an interview. It's clearly pis.

why shud i humour you anymore? ive given enough evidence as it stands, reply to it or concede.

sum1 who hasnt read lucifer can not claim PIS. the evidence says otherwise. stop bullshitting quan.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
why shud i humour you anymore? ive given enough evidence as it stands, reply to it or concede.

sum1 who hasnt read lucifer can not claim PIS. the evidence says otherwise. stop bullshitting quan.

Concession accepted on not having an interview to post.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In the actual comic that it occurred it stated one universe. It was pis later on. I stand by my opinion.

Concession accepted on not having an interview to post.

nirvana is the ACTUAL COMIC. and in the ACTUAL comic, alternate versions of already dead characters were appearing from other universes, that effectively makes it a multiverse no matter how much you whine.

mike carey wrote lucifer............... your delusional again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
the multiverse comment was obviously pis.

PIS: "At times, for the sake of the plot, characters that are immensely more powerful than their opponent will "job" to carry on the plot of the story, even though the characters powers and history would clearly show that they are more than capable of destroying their opponent. For this reason we have a No PIS Rule. This rule prohibits the use of such instances of PIS from being used as evidence in debates."

Retcon: "the deliberate changing of previously established facts in a work of serial fiction."

So in response to your above statement; Lucifer referring to his creation as a multiverse during 'Nirvanna' is much more akin to a retcon, not PIS. You simply mismatched your terminology, is all.

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Originally posted by leonheartmm
myx has been owned by the spectre in the past. he can not create a multiverse once let alone more than once. he can not threaten the presence.

^but the 5th dimension is also part of the multiverse though. im saying that no1 has done that to lucifer. his record as far as powered versions are concerned is near flawless and much more impressive than myx.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
nirvana is the ACTUAL COMIC. and in the ACTUAL comic, alternate versions of already dead characters were appearing from other universes, that effectively makes it a multiverse no matter how much you whine.

mike carey wrote lucifer............... your delusional again.

Originally posted by Galan007
You're mistaking "PIS", with "retcon."

PIS: "At times, for the sake of the plot, characters that are immensely more powerful than their opponent will "job" to carry on the plot of the story, even though the characters powers and history would clearly show that they are more than capable of destroying their opponent. For this reason we have a No PIS Rule. This rule prohibits the use of such instances of PIS from being used as evidence in debates."

Retcon: "the deliberate changing of previously established facts in a work of serial fiction."

So in response to your above statement; Lucifer referring to his creation as a multiverse during 'Nirvanna' is much more akin to a retcon, not PIS. You simply mismatched your terminology, is all.

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