Martian Manhunter vs Juggernaut

MM vs Juggernaut
who wins

JUGGS

Jonn

with the skullcap on, juggy stomps.

without the skullcap, and j'onn knowing that removing the helmet will make him vulnerable, j'onn without too much difficulty.

no skull cap
is skull cap immune to phasing powers

Even split, or MM for the slight majority.

MM is too versatile for Juggs. Once he turns intangible, there's no way for Juggs to hurt him. And Juggs doesn't have any psionic abilities to counter intangibility.

Juggs, on the other hand, won't even be fazed by any of MM's attacks.

However, if MM has basic knowledge that the helmet makes Juggs immune to TP, then Juggs gets omfgwtfpwned.

MM.

MM for a majority, provided he realizes the helmet protects Juggernaut from TP. MM has enough tricks, and the strength needed to remove Jugg's skullcap.

MM 6-7/10

Manhunter.

At his best, he would take very little damage from Juggernaut and even without knowledge of what the helmet does his relentless pummeling would eventually remove both helmets and leave Juggernaut open for mental attack.

Manhunter ftw.

J'onn, every time.

Originally posted by Philosophía
J'onn, every time.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Even split, or MM for the slight majority.

MM is too versatile for Juggs. Once he turns intangible, there's no way for Juggs to hurt him. And Juggs doesn't have any psionic abilities to counter intangibility.

Juggs, on the other hand, won't even be fazed by any of MM's attacks.

However, if MM has basic knowledge that the helmet makes Juggs immune to TP, then Juggs gets omfgwtfpwned.

Juggernaut could affect xaviers astral form? phasing isnt how he would win.

he would have to remove the helmet and mind rape him. MM may be one of the few people that can actually take juggernaut for a majority by himself... thats rare.

juggernaut in theory could still rely on his force field... then his helmet would never come off. in which case he could win a few. but still mm 7 - 8 of 10.

The only thing J'ohn has going for him is flight and telepathy.

Originally posted by KingD19
The only thing J'ohn has going for him is flight and telepathy.

MM wins majority, if not all of the battles.

That's all he needs, since he's beaten just about everyone he fought with brute strength. And if MM doesn't know to get his helmet off, all he can do is phase, and try to stay away from him, which I count as a win for Cain.

Originally posted by KillAll
Juggernaut could affect xaviers astral form? phasing isnt how he would win.

he would have to remove the helmet and mind rape him. MM may be one of the few people that can actually take juggernaut for a majority by himself... thats rare.

juggernaut in theory could still rely on his force field... then his helmet would never come off. in which case he could win a few. but still mm 7 - 8 of 10.

Also I'm not sure what the mechanics are behind astral projection in Marvel but telepathy itself is based on electromagnetism and Manhunter phases by partially entering another dimension so I don't think they can directly correlate.

But I guess if Juggernaut is allowed to use one time feats, or in this case, two time feats, he could pull a few stalemates.

It's only a matter of time until the helmets come off. Once that happens, Cain is done.

MM wins.