Martian Manhunter vs Juggernaut

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Doctor-Alvis Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by psycho gundam
so then j'onn would have to "accidentally" replicate that feat then.

and he would have to attempt another mind attack after taking the helmet off, but he should be a bit discouraged after failing before hand.

but if juggernaut opens his big mouth about the helmet trick, j'onn wins no matter what.


I don't think it is that far fetched to assume Manhunter would accidentally exert a high amount of force on Juggernaut's head. Or that he would notice an open mind suddenly appearing once the helmet is off when previously there was nothing.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

but other than the hulk thing, all the other instances of his helmet being removed were deliberate attacks on the clasps that secure it since they knew that was the only barrier to his mind.

Spire Senior Member

Cain's helmet should fall under 'KMC basic knowledge'.

Doctor-Alvis Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by psycho gundam
but other than the hulk thing, all the other instances of his helmet being removed were deliberate attacks on the clasps that secure it since they knew that was the only barrier to his mind.

But that proves the helmet can be removed by other means.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

if he knows to attack it's not so obvious seem, then yes.

Doctor-Alvis Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by psycho gundam
if he knows to attack it's not so obvious seem, then yes.

Well, the face is a common place to strike. Also, it's literally the only part of Juggernaut's body that looks armored. The rest looks like a jumpsuit. I think if any thing he would think Juggernaut's head is his physically weak point, which has happened before. I'm not saying he'll get the helmet off in an effort to remove his psionic defenses but I am saying the helmet will come off.

frommd Senior Member

The only chance for Cain is if J'onn tries to slug it out. That won't happen for long. J'onn 10/10.

LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Cain wears a cowl of the same material under his helmet. So he gets in close enough to remove his helmet, then he could get grabbed and have his head ripped off. or just have him knocked unconscious. If the helmet and cowl get taken off MM wins it.

jadervason rapist of machines

Dude. MM shapeshifts into a fly, goes intangible, flies through an eyehole and mind****s Cain until he loves it.

big juggy man Senior Member

With his force field up how could MM touch him? If MM is able to use all of his abilities then so should the Juggernaut. If the Juggernaut has his forcefield up then there is nothing MM could do to beat him.

Survivor19 Senior Member

Cain doesn't usually have his forcefield raised.

jadervason rapist of machines

He doesn't need to touch him, he's a shapeshifter and intangible with mind powers for crying out loud.

Hyperion Prime Senior Member

Juggernaut 8/10 Cain will bide his time. He will just keep walking destroying stuff causing MM to try to save civillians and fight the Naught. Juggernaut has his forecefield up it's a whole nother thing.

He does have invulnerability and he also has a force field. When his force field is up it glows. I have seen him use it against Thor and Spiderman was repelled by it when he tried to attack him from behind. He also used it in UXM 12 or 13. He used his FF to stop her telekinetic attack basically repelling it and walking up it. I think he also used it against Dazzler.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

He's a shapeshifter, but he can't turn into flys and stuff as far as I know.

And nothing so far has been able to get through his force field.

And if he gets the helmet off, he still has the skull cap that does the same thing.

Doctor-Alvis Post-Crisis Balki

If Juggernaut's going to use his one shot force fields we might as well have Manhunter be Fernus the Burning too. Juggernaut's going to have to have his ability to shrink people and shoot magic fireballs, both of which he also did once, to win that fight.

People are overrating Juggernaut's force fields. In the Thor guest appearance Juggernaut was depicted as getting the bulk of his durability from his force field. This is false, as most people know. Then when he guest starred in Spider-man he was back to normal but had an extra force field but it's highest feat of durability was surviving web shots and an exploding gas truck.

Wei Phoenix One-Eyed Dragon Of Oshu

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
If Juggernaut's going to use his one shot force fields we might as well have Manhunter be Fernus the Burning too. Juggernaut's going to have to have his ability to shrink people and shoot magic fireballs, both of which he also did once, to win that fight.

People are overrating Juggernaut's force fields. In the Thor guest appearance Juggernaut was depicted as getting the bulk of his durability from his force field. This is false, as most people know. Then when he guest starred in Spider-man he was back to normal but had an extra force field but it's highest feat of durability was surviving web shots and an exploding gas truck.

I pretty much agree with what you are saying but I believe used his FF against spidey because he simply didn't want to be touched or covered in webs. Cain actually can't use the magic abilities anymore because he gave up that knowledge to escape IIRC.

BradBalboa SHIKAKAAAA !!!

Would eb a good fight, but Mm wins!