Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You realize those two are completely different incidents?
It doesn't matter if they are separate or not, the point is that far weaker characters have gone well above their power level to the point of a PIS ruling being made for one incident (Spider Man vs Firelord) to show that comics contain such incidents in abundance. No one even knows if Captain America would have killed the weakened King Thor at that point, and what was stated about it was pure speculation. King Thor then went on to warp Cap's shield. If the item wasn't in the way, what would such a blow have done to Captain America?
King Thor was estimated as being on Odin's level of power, and it was stated on panel that Odin had the power to destroy galaxies in his battles. We're comparing that power to some Probes that gave the JL a rough time, when Odin could casually slap the Surfer out cold. The Surfer is more powerful than 95% of any one JL member. In this case, RK Thor is even more powerful than Odin by a large degree, but because Superman was tearing apart these Probes, he has suddenly become powerful enough to not only defeat RK Thor, but to 2 shot him.
Originally posted by ozz81
Didn't also RKT pretty much became death itself by sacrificing himself ie the hanging on the tree etc.. Only he could end himself which he did right at the end after defeating those Gods that sit above in the shadows?
That's the point right there. Rune King Thor had powers that transcended things like super speed, awesome punching power and the laser vision.
Originally posted by Stoic
It doesn't matter if they are separate or not, the point is that far weaker characters have gone well above their power level to the point of a PIS ruling being made for one incident (Spider Man vs Firelord) to show that comics contain such incidents in abundance. No one even knows if Captain America would have killed the weakened King Thor at that point, and what was stated about it was pure speculation. King Thor then went on to warp Cap's shield. If the item wasn't in the way, what would such a blow have done to Captain America?King Thor was estimated as being on Odin's level of power, and it was stated on panel that Odin had the power to destroy galaxies in his battles. We're comparing that power to some Probes that gave the JL a rough time, when Odin could casually slap the Surfer out cold. The Surfer is more powerful than 95% of any one JL member. In this case, RK Thor is even more powerful than Odin by a large degree, but because Superman was tearing apart these Probes, he has suddenly become powerful enough to not only defeat RK Thor, but to 2 shot him.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I like how yall ignore everything they posted but yet you expext us to believe the probes are some multiversal level beings. Done with this thread.
I do not ignore anything. Wolverine took RKT arm. Probes can annihilate Galxies in hours.
I wait for the scans of RKT destroying a galaxy, nothing more.
Originally posted by StoicRune King Thor had powers that transcended things like
super speed, awesome punching power and the laser vision.
RKT (with one arm) effortlessly stopped a raging/charging Mangog,
then RKT wasn't fazed at all by Mangog's furious blows:
RKT (again, effortlessly) erased Mangog with a thought:
As anyone knows, Mangog is far stronger and more durable than Thor.
To me, it's the nonchalant reaction RKT used in the feat.
Originally posted by StoicThat makes no sense. Either Thor is fast or he isn't. And he wasn't very fast at all. Superman would hit him before he made a single action. Thor showed no durability to withstand a single punch by this Superman. If you disagree then prove (by feats) that he can withstand a punch from Superman.
That's the point right there. Rune King Thor had powers that transcended things like super speed, awesome punching power and the laser vision.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
So RKT best power and semi fighting feat is ending himself? Helps a lot in this fight.Can i see scans of KT or RKT destroying galaxies?
Peobes can annihilate Galxies in hours.
It's like asking someone to show Marvel Zeus destroying galaxies else he's far below Odin when we all know he's at least somewhere in his level if not equal every time they are compared on panel.
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Originally posted by h1a8
That makes no sense. Either Thor is fast or he isn't. And he wasn't very fast at all. Superman would hit him before he made a single action. Thor showed no durability to withstand a single punch by this Superman. If you disagree then prove (by feats) that he can withstand a punch from Superman.
Didn't you just see Mr. Masters scans? Why are you asking for something that has been laid out for you?
Originally posted by Mr Master
👆 ... RKT was omniscient too, and evolved beyond "Death."RKT (with one arm) effortlessly stopped a raging/charging Mangog,
then RKT wasn't fazed at all by Mangog's furious blows:RKT (again, effortlessly) erased Mangog with a thought:
As anyone knows, Mangog is far stronger and more durable than Thor.
To me, it's the nonchalant reaction RKT used in the feat.
I have the entire arc on disk. Which one? beats the heck out of me LOL. I'm really happy that you posted those scans though.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
As RKT he had moved beyond Odin in power and wisdom. He had to or else he would not have been able to thwart "Those Who Sit Above in Shadow". I suggest you read or reread the arc if you have done so already.It's like asking someone to show Marvel Zeus destroying galaxies else he's far below Odin when we all know he's at least somewhere in his level if not equal every time they are compared on panel.
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Odin isn't depicted by all writers as a Galaxy buster.
As for RKT. Every GL has the ring but a Kronabuster is something only hal was able to do.
So RKT by feats never showed galaxy level power, this doesn't mean that he couldn't do something odin wouldn't be able to do, like pick up Mjolnir.
So Probes are stated to be Galaxy level. Has RKT at least a statement?
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Odin isn't depicted by all writers as a Galaxy buster.As for RKT. Every GL has the ring but a Kronabuster is something only hal was able to do.
So RKT by feats never showed galaxy level power, this doesn't mean that he couldn't do something odin wouldn't be able to do, like pick up Mjolnir.
So Probes are stated to be Galaxy level. Has RKT at least a statement?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Gonna wait for you to think about what you just wrote here..
I hoped you would think about it. You can get the same powersource and the results you can accomplish might differ. RKT loses an arm to Wolverine and can't bust a galaxy, his magic can achieve something odin couldn't though. There is no contradiction. Oh and both can't lift Mjolnir.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Odin isn't depicted by all writers as a Galaxy buster.As for RKT. Every GL has the ring but a Kronabuster is something only hal was able to do.
So RKT by feats never showed galaxy level power, this doesn't mean that he couldn't do something odin wouldn't be able to do, like pick up Mjolnir.
So Probes are stated to be Galaxy level. Has RKT at least a statement?
Yeah.... NO, you get a 1.3 for the attempt at performing mental gymnastics. To even somehow attempt to pretend that RK Thor is less powerful than Odin even at his greatest showing, is ignorance at its very best. No matter how much time has gone by, Mangog will still be known as the being that gave Odin hell (this isn't Pre Crisis where everything was cancelled), even in his own realm, Mangog succeeded in putting the heat on Odin.
RK Thor is seen no selling Mangog's best. He was written to be far above Odin's power level, so if you haven't read the arc you should.
I'm still waiting on the time that Odin was unable to lift Mjolnir. Celey do you have any knowledge of this, and what was the context?
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
So RKT never busted a galaxy, concession accepted.Context was odin is not worthy.
Why would anyone ever concede to someone that believes that Superman at this very same power level has the power to defeat Dark Phoenix? RK Thor never had to destroy a galaxy to be able to actually do so. The arc was not written around him doing so. How about you show me a Probe destroying a galaxy as a side effect from doing battle. If you can't do that, which I know that you can't, why bring it up?
