Sun dipped Superman vs Rune King Thor

Originally posted by Mr Master
Correction friend, Mr Master never "claimed" that.

Mr Master was only debating a specific detail:

Did that "Death avatar" claim universeS in that Superman scene? Which is no!
Did that "Death avatar" destroy universeS in that Superman scene? Which is no!
Was that "Death avatar" responsible for the end of the universe in that Superman scene? Which is also no!

Now, if somewhere else it has been confirmed otherwise, I haven't seen it.

Scans?

That "Death avatar" seemed to have one solitary purpose, to claim Superman.

I can see how it would be pissed if it's one goal in existence is extinguished.

Several in Marvel, ... don't know about DC.

Superman conquered multiversal death and multiversal time with his power.

No one in marvel has ever changed the paradigm and existence of multiversal Death as Superman has.

So Superman is above abstract death now lmao

Originally posted by JBL
Those engines were not putting out anywhere near the full power of thousands of galaxies.

Originally posted by operator616
Yet RKT was shown to be above the fates. And previously in thor #197 and #348 it was explicitly shown that the fates are far above Odin.

Yeah, from what I understood it didn't explicitly show Thor as more powerful but his humanity, having spent far longer on Earth, made him a greater all-father. IIRC this fact played into him defeating TWSAIS however it was actually Odin's plan all along.

Thor knocks his head off

Yeah, Thor can knock his own head off here.

Originally posted by Sensui
Actually according to your great hope Operator616, he said it wasn't Universal Death, BUT MULTI-VERSAL DEATH.

All from this thread
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=586301&pagenumber=3

Maybe he's changed his mind and the death is no longer Universal like One Punch and Mr. Master are trying to claim.

the debate was whether Superman defeated the death entity or not; i wasn't debating the entity's power level.

I have no interest in reopening the discussion. Anyone who's interested can read the thread and decide for themselves.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Was he? He simply broke the chain of Fates. The well explicitly gave him the same knowledge of runes Odin had on the sacrifice of two eyes because Odin had already given one eye and the sacrifice was worthless then.

Yes he was. He broke the loom of fate while the fates stood helplessly begging Thor not to do so.

Originally posted by operator616
the debate was whether Superman defeated the death entity or not; i wasn't debating the entity's power level.

I have no interest in reopening the discussion. Anyone who's interested can read the thread and decide for themselves.

Yes he was. He broke the loom of fate while the fates stood helplessly begging Thor not to do so.

So who wins here?

I consider them on the same level. An argument can be made for either side.

In that case OWAW Superman went up to or surpassed a well fed Galactus, if in fact RK Thor was superior to Odin then. Seems like a tough sale.

Originally posted by operator616

Yes he was. He broke the loom of fate while the fates stood helplessly begging Thor not to do so.

Eh, that's not the sure indication that he was more powerful than fates. Those who sit in shadows also begged him not to do so and it was definitely shown that they were still more powerful than him.

Also he gained the exact same power as Odin. I don't know why he would be more powerful than him.

Because on top of the Odin-force amp he also had the runes?

Which Odin also had?

("this is where your father hung himself for nine days and nights...and he gathered the knowledge of the runes!"😉.

Http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/TheHalk/media/Comics/Rune%20King%20Thor/Thor084-05_zps6af28a08.jpg.html

But Odin had incomplete knowledge from the well, Thor didn't.

It has been awhile since I read it, but didn't that knowledge allow him more power with the runes?

Thor gained the exact powers Odin did. With more sacrifices.

There is no hint in the comic that Odin had incomplete knowledge of runes.

Or Thor was more powerful than him. It was his experience as a mortal that set him apart from the gods.

Originally posted by Mindset
But Odin had incomplete knowledge from the well, Thor didn't.

It has been awhile since I read it, but didn't that knowledge allow him more power with the runes?

Yes, it allowed Thor to see the past, present and future all at once. Plus the rune magic amped the odinforce. Loki was sky father level and was gnat to Thor who one shot killed mangog

Where did the runes amped Odin power?

And what did Loki do to place him at skyfather level?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor gained the exact powers Odin did. With more sacrifices.

There is no hint in the comic that Odin had incomplete knowledge of runes.

Or Thor was more powerful than him. It was his experience as a mortal that set him apart from the gods.

What knowledge from the well did Thor get?

Originally posted by Mindset
But Odin had incomplete knowledge from the well, Thor didn't.

It has been awhile since I read it, but didn't that knowledge allow him more power with the runes?