Originally posted by DarkSaint85Every cell in his body was glowing yet he wanted more, then he flew through atleast 5 more sun's faster than he has ever flown, it will take light hours to catch up to him, that's slow compared to light-years by the way. So we learned that he's not as fast as his fans think.
Was it confirmed it amped him beyond normal suns? I never saw that.
Originally posted by JBL
Every cell in his body was glowing yet he wanted more, then he flew through atleast 5 more sun's faster than he has ever flown, it will take light hours to catch up to him, that's slow compared to light-years by the way.
So it wasn't confirmed that it amps him beyond a normal sun.....he's flying faster than ever before, doesn't mean he's amped beyond what a normal sun would do. Or that he's been more amped.
Plus.....being faster than light like that surely means no sunlight is hitting him lol. So he's not being amped by it.
Originally posted by JBL
Every cell in his body was glowing yet he wanted more, then he flew through atleast 5 more sun's faster than he has ever flown, it will take light hours to catch up to him, that's slow compared to light-years by the way. So we learned that he's not as fast as his fans think.
LMAO so you’re going by the glow from his body as your proof?
If you go that route you still lose the argument.
While WF Superman was ‘glowing’. OWAW Superman was on fire. On fire, bro.
😂 even Alberto puts up better arguments.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85It gave him the power to fly that fast, faster than ever before. Think please. And please tell that idiot that something burning hot is not hotter than something glowing hot.
So it wasn't confirmed that it amps him beyond a normal sun.....he's flying faster than ever before, doesn't mean he's amped beyond what a normal sun would do. Or that he's been more amped.Plus.....being faster than light like that surely means no sunlight is hitting him lol. So he's not being amped by it.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85every cell in his body was glowing, super amped.... He wanted more... Key word is MORE..... Now how did he get more?? He got more by flying through more sun's. Very simple if you read and understand what the writer is telling.
Faster than sunlight, so you're telling me he wasn't being amped by it.
Originally posted by JBL
every cell in his body was glowing, super amped.... He wanted more... Key word is MORE..... Now how did he get more?? He got more by flying through more sun's. Very simple if you read and understand what the writer is telling.
Well yeah. More than his usual, i.e., amped. Not disputing that. 100% agree with you that he was amped.
But to say it was "confirmed" that he was amped MORE than a usual amp - is what I am asking for.
Where are the numbers given? Being amped 200x Vs being amped 100x, for example.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85being white-hot tells the reader that it was a unusually massive amp.
Well yeah. More than his usual, i.e., amped. Not disputing that. 100% agree with you that he was amped.But to say it was "confirmed" that he was amped MORE than a usual amp - is what I am asking for.
Where are the numbers given? Being amped 200x Vs being amped 100x, for example.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85No one gave numbers though. But this did.. his fastest travel speed is outrunning light by hours?? That's pathetic compared to silver Surfer or Gladiator. Again, glowing white-hot.
Well, just like you kept asking for cold hard numbers in the speed debate....Numbers please proving that he was amped beyond normal amps. That it was an unusually massive amp.
Originally posted by StoicProve that Odin can benchpress the weight of a planet.
Read the comic and stop wasting time pretending as if you know what you're talking about. Odin alone has above planetary level strength. Mangog is stronger than he is. Rune King Thor treated Mangog like he was less than a gnat. You make it seem as if a character would need to have no limit to their strenth to defeat Superman. Which is really what you're trying to say. Did you even read First Thunder? There are characters that can only be hit by a magical source. Superman is not magical. Gee you'd think you would understand this by now. Rune King Thor plucked Loki's head off like a grape, and kept him alive. Loki had the power of a Sky Father. But keep trolling.
We use feats to determine levels of durability and strength. You have to prove that RKT's durability is beyond Superman's level of strength by providing feats of RKT tanking forces greater than or equal to Superman's best. Otherwise you are trolling and giving irrelevant points.
Originally posted by h1a8
Prove that Odin can benchpress the weight of a planet.
Then Prove that Odin was operating at planet lifting strength when he fought Mangog. Because Gladiator bashed a planet before but wasn't operating at the level when he fought Colossus, Thor, Hulk, etc.We use feats to determine levels of durability and strength. You have to prove that RKT's durability is beyond Superman's level of strength by providing feats of RKT tanking forces greater than or equal to Superman's best. Otherwise you are trolling and giving irrelevant points.
I'm not sure if youve ever got told this to you before but.... NOBODY and i mean NOBODY on this forum or any forum takes you serious, stop pretending like you read comics, period.
Superman bench pressing a planet doesn't translate to striking,
BENCH PRESSING specifically does not train for striking force. That's just not what it's for. Fighters use weight training for lots of different muscle groups that are used for striking, it's just the chest and triceps aren't really the most involved muscles when striking.
Your chest and triceps are meant to push weight off of your body. Your striking force is more determined by body mass, speed, and technique. The bench press as an exercise is not meant to aid in striking power, period.
Superman best strength feat is shattering a moon recently
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I'm not sure if youve ever got told this to you before but.... NOBODY and i mean NOBODY on this forum or any forum takes you serious, stop pretending like you read comics, period.Superman bench pressing a planet doesn't translate to striking,
BENCH PRESSING specifically does not train for striking force. That's just not what it's for. Fighters use weight training for lots of different muscle groups that are used for striking, it's just the chest and triceps aren't really the most involved muscles when striking.Your chest and triceps are meant to push weight off of your body. Your striking force is more determined by body mass, speed, and technique. The bench press as an exercise is not meant to aid in striking power, period.
Superman best strength feat is shattering a moon recently
Great striking force requires high speed of the limb and strength behind the the push of the limb. Both together determine striking force.
Superman has superspeed and superstrength. Superman can punch at insane speeds while having planetary push forces behind them.
Now, what's RKT's best durability feat against physical strikes?
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman's best strength feat is breaking those chains.Great striking force requires high speed of the limb and strength behind the the push of the limb. Both together determine striking force.
Superman has superspeed and superstrength. Superman can punch at insane speeds while having planetary push forces behind them.
Now, what's RKT's best durability feat against physical strikes?
Except there's no gravity in space. He literally says to pull stars between galaxies. The space between galaxies is a void. After the initial push to get an object moving, an object in space will move in a straight line infinitely until acted upon by gravity or some other outside influence. Only the supremely ignorant don't understand that it requires very little forced to move an object not anchored by gravity 😂
the claim of the chains being unbreakable was an unreliable one made by a character prone to hyperbolic statements.
This whole feat is invalidated by a string of logical inconsistencies, bUt hE sAiD uNbReAkBlE. In every issue of this book, from the boxing match (you can't win) to the duality where Clark is stranded on a planet talking to Superman (you can't save her) hyperbolic statements were made with the intent of trying to get Clark to give up. The statement about the chains and robots were the same. literally the theme of the entire series
Originally posted by JBLyou’re color blind too?
every cell in his body was glowing, super amped.... He wanted more... Key word is MORE..... Now how did he get more?? He got more by flying through more sun's. Very simple if you read and understand what the writer is telling.
Where is the glow?
Compare the above to this
If your going by body glow, you brought it up idiot, you lose.... again.
Using JBL’s argument, WF smacking Superman has nowhere near the amp OWAW Superman had. This proves 3 things
1. Superman can get even more powerful than the Multiverse destroying one.
2. It’s not how many suns he amps off it’s how long he’s in the sun.
And finally
3. Shuts down their lowball attempt by implying that he was being amped by multiple suns, like he was constantly feeding off of them before he knocked out WF. Leave it to JBL to undo the lies his little circle of friends were spreading.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
the claim of the chains being unbreakable was an unreliable one made by a character prone to hyperbolic statements.This whole feat is invalidated by a string of logical inconsistencies, bUt hE sAiD uNbReAkBlE. In every issue of this book, from the boxing match (you can't win) to the duality where Clark is stranded on a planet talking to Superman (you can't save her) hyperbolic statements were made with the intent of trying to get Clark to give up. The statement about the chains and robots were the same. literally the theme of the entire series
Obviously he underestimated Superman but he knew what the chains were capable of. They were made from the same metal that is used to haul stars between galaxies. You can’t dispute this and it’s not hyperbole.