Sun dipped Superman vs Rune King Thor

Originally posted by h1a8
What durability feats against blunt force supports Thor being able to withstand getting punched from such a Superman (overpowering the Imperiex begotten force)? Also what speed feats does he have that supports Superman not able to see him frozen in time?

Superman moves so fast that he can rend time itself, and he has strength that can erase abstract concepts such as Entropy (Imperiex).

Superman really does transcend Abstract levels when he needs, such as overpowering/out speeding death, Entropy, Eternity, etc.

^^^ Clownshoes. You literally make other superman fans, sans ABHI, look reasonable

OWAW Superman was already 5-10 times stronger than his trans level bests, with the sundip this increased at least by a factor of 100. This would allow him to stomp rkt. Some not so smart people should read owaw before making clueless comments.

So in your opinion superman at base best is 500x weaker?

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
So in your opinion superman at base best is 500x weaker?

At least, yes. That's what Loeb showed us, take it for what it's worth.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
So in your opinion superman at base best is 500x weaker?

Superman never truly loses power, rather he just starts actualizing more of his always constant suppressed potential.

Superman is the most powerful abstract entity in all comics, and in OWAW superman was tapping a slight bit more of his abstract power than he nornally does.

Does this make sense to you, my son?

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
At least, yes. That's what Loeb showed us, take it for what it's worth.

Yeah...so when Byrne has low showings, we disregard it and call it 'Byrne Superman', but never 'Loeb Superman'. Hmmm.

Superclowns are at it again eh, lmao at SD Superman been anything above sky father lvl

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah...so when Byrne has low showings, we disregard it and call it 'Byrne Superman', but never 'Loeb Superman'. Hmmm.

Byrne Era Superman was drawn and written by multiple writers/artist and had a consistent level that Byne established, since this time he has grown in power, which is the reason why we distinguish post CotiE into Byrne Era and post Byrne Era, Loeb Force Superman was the epitome of this evolution which resulted in a on average trans level char that can tap into skyfather+ tiers if needed, see FC. So yes we can call the Superman after OWAW Loeb Superman till FC, though he went back with his mental blockades after OWAW as he was too dangerous.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Superclowns are at it again eh, lmao at SD Superman been anything above sky father lvl

I know, it's just silly.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Superclowns are at it again eh, lmao at SD Superman been anything above sky father lvl

Originally posted by Stoic
I know, it's just silly.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Heck, Imperiex probes destroyed Old Gods and destroyed the Godworld which unleashed Godwave.

Nobody thinks RKT is more powerful than Old Gods and Godwave, do they?

Hippolyta and Aquaman breached a probe's armor and destroyed it, are they greater than Old Gods and the Godwave too?

This just in..

Black Lightning and Lane/tank > Old Gods

This is carver lowball level, be ashamed. They needed amps, every one of those defeats came in with a price, the lives of those who oppsed a Probe. Their feat is not like Supermans, because he survived it and oneshoted them, without amps.

So because a Probe can be destroyed by an amped being that dies in the process, or the plot that comes with a sacrifice, makes every feat of Superman who oneshot Probes that defeated the whole JLA invalid? Gimme a break.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
This just in..

Black Lightning and Lane/tank > Old Gods

Saying Superman isn't abstract/skyfather level is lowballing him.

RKT EVERY time

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
This is carver lowball level, be ashamed. They needed amps, every one of those defeats came in with a price, the lives of those who oppsed a Probe. Their feat is not like Supermans, because he survived it and oneshoted them, without amps.

So because a Probe can be destroyed by an amped being that dies in the process, or the plot that comes with a sacrifice, makes every feat of Superman who oneshot Probes that defeated the whole JLA invalid? Gimme a break.

Still, the claim is that relatively low level people with amps can achieve what Old Gods cannot.

The only problem is lowballing the shit out of what happened to Old Gods off panel and without context, and using that "evidence" to improperly elevate Superman

Originally posted by Cogito
Still, the claim is that relatively low level people with amps can achieve what Old Gods cannot.

The only problem is lowballing the shit out of what happened to Old Gods off panel and without context, and using that "evidence" to improperly elevate Superman

So you want old gods to be capable to breach the armor of a Probe and die in the process?

Lowballing is always the proplem as is highballing. We can estimate Supermans amps and the power of the Probes. I don't said anything about the old gods till now but fighting lowballing with lowballing won't make it better.

What makes people believe that RK Thor could not obliterate millions of Probes? He pulled Loki's head off like he was plucking a grape. Lokis was amped to a decent degree as well.

Originally posted by Stoic
What makes people believe that RK Thor could not obliterate millions of Probes? He pulled Loki's head off like he was plucking a grape. Lokis was amped to a decent degree as well.

What makes people believe he can?

We know who the Probes defeated, from lowest to highest showings we can estimate where they rank, they have the feats. Now we know where Superman and his peers can be placed compared to them. We also can see how much power Superman had to gain in order to perform as he did against them. And in the end we see that the sundip gave him at least an 100x powerboost.

So, where would you rank a Probe that can defeat the entire JLA? High Trans?
Where would you rank a Probe that can defeat a Herald? Low Trans or HH?
Where would you rank a Probe that can defeat 100.000 Daxamites? Skyfather?
Where would you rank Superman who oneshotted multiple of those Probes?
Where would you rank Superman who gained an 100+ powerboost?

What do we know of RKT. Show us his best feats, who has he defeated? The old Gods? What feats do they have? Genuinely asking.
Where would you rank RKT based on feats?
Where would you rank the old Gods based on feats?

Sure we can work with a no limits fallacy but this would be pointless.