King Thor vs Anti-Monitor (SCW)

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Feel free to provide scans of that then,and no one survived getting hit by the wave.

While not being hit with the wave itself, AM did land a direct energy blast on Yat and on Sorinak, and both survived. Yat multiple times. Without being Ion at the time. He started up the AM wave and it looked as though Prime was caught in it. Then afterwards all the heroes are fighting around him and the area around them all is completely white, indicating they're fighting in that anti-matter area, too. Prime also flies directly through his body, which is made up of anti-matter...

Anti-Monitor - he was still stronger than any of the other SC members and required a bunch of plot devices to take down

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Anti-Monitor - he was still stronger than any of the other SC members and required a bunch of plot devices to take down

Guardians are plot devices?

The War World was

Originally posted by Enyalus
Which is anti-matter.

Now please stop. You can also cut out using his feats from COIE, since that isn't the version specified. It's like using PC Superman to debate a Supes match.

its anti matter, its anti energy, its anti space, its anti time, its anti life force of ever being in that universe, and on top or the monitor having absorbed countless positive matter universes, your comparison is bullshit.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
its anti matter, its anti energy, its anti space, its anti time, its anti life force of ever being in that universe,

Sorinak survived his blasts. Yat survived his blasts. Prime survived AM's energies directly. Etc. KT will survive them, easily, even if he doesn't choose to absorb them.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
and on top or the monitor having absorbed countless positive matter universes

Moreover, this version of AM was nowhere near the full power of AM shown in COIE, and thats outright stated by the Guardians.

All of this was shown in GL 25, so please take your made up fantasies and go elsewhere.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Wrong. The AM wave (which is what I initially was debating Mjolnir was capable of absorbing) converts dimensional energy into anti-matter. It is anti-matter. Pure and simple.

Sorinak survived his blasts. Yat survived his blasts. Prime survived AM's energies directly. Etc. KT will survive them, easily, even if he doesn't choose to absorb them.

Wrong again, considering that there are still 52 universes left, plus ones spun off by hypertime.

Moreover, this version of AM was nowhere near the full power of AM shown in COIE, and thats outright stated by the Guardians.

All of this was shown in GL 25, so please take your made up fantasies and go elsewhere. [/B]

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Originally posted by Enyalus

Wrong. The AM wave (which is what I initially was debating Mjolnir was capable of absorbing) converts dimensional energy into anti-matter. It is anti-matter. Pure and simple.

Sorinak survived his blasts. Yat survived his blasts. Prime survived AM's energies directly. Etc. KT will survive them, easily, even if he doesn't choose to absorb them.

Wrong again, considering that there are still 52 universes left, plus ones spun off by hypertime.

Moreover, this version of AM was nowhere near the full power of AM shown in COIE, and thats outright stated by the Guardians.

All of this was shown in GL 25, so please take your made up fantasies and go elsewhere. [/B]

thats wasnt a full am wave, anti matter can not be interchanged between dc and marvel since it has observably difference effects, and by your reasoning even a full powered anti monitor cudnt do anything to king thor! you fail. the energy of the anti monitor WHILE being depowered was enough to brutalise a guardian on contact. prime survived it because he is among the strongest beings in dc. and your completely wrong there, the 52 universes didnt exist before crisis on infinite earths and that is when the anti monitor had absorbed ocuntless positive universe. your trying to interpret the entirety of his power as based on anti matter reactions, then interpreting in marvel's terms which are obviously different then relating it to instances where mkolnir survived very much smaller onslaughts of anti matter. utterly ridiculous form of argumentation and you know it. anti monitor as a being is above most abstracts and even in his weakened for, he survived galaxy busting power and the onslaught of many. king thos has never done anything like that without PIS. king thor loses. deal with it.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
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I'm not going to bother ripping that last post apart. And the line about 'and your completely wrong there, the 52 universes didnt exist before crisis on infinite earths and that is when the anti monitor had absorbed ocuntless positive universe' was extremely amusing, considering that was exactly my point.

King Thor wins at least 8/10.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
thats wasnt a full am wave, anti matter can not be interchanged between dc and marvel since it has observably difference effects, and by your reasoning even a full powered anti monitor cudnt do anything to king thor! you fail. the energy of the anti monitor WHILE being depowered was enough to brutalise a guardian on contact. prime survived it because he is among the strongest beings in dc. and your completely wrong there, the 52 universes didnt exist before crisis on infinite earths and that is when the anti monitor had absorbed ocuntless positive universe. your trying to interpret the entirety of his power as based on anti matter reactions, then interpreting in marvel's terms which are obviously different then relating it to instances where mkolnir survived very much smaller onslaughts of anti matter. utterly ridiculous form of argumentation and you know it. anti monitor as a being is above most abstracts and even in his weakened for, he survived galaxy busting power and the onslaught of many. king thos has never done anything like that without PIS. king thor loses. deal with it.

This classic Thor feat conveniently matches the scope of the combined GL Corps feat who contained the anti-matter wave and a Milky Way busting Warworld detonation and then shunted it into the anti-matter universe. Now consider that this thread involves King Thor, who is wildly more powerful than classic Thor. King Thor should have even less trouble with either: (i) dealing with traditional anti-matter; or if it's not traditional anti-matter; then (ii) dealing with a massive amount of unspecified energy.

Is it worth it to try to characterize this unspecified energy and speculate as to whether it will give King Thor any problems? Mjolnir has never been restricted when it comes to exotic energies. And as far as what we do know of Anti-Monitor's energies: (i) Sodam Yat, a Daxamite with a GL ring, handled them fine pre-Ion upgrade; (ii) Superboy Prime wasn't even slowed down; and (iii) GL forcefields contained and shunted it away.

Only real question in this fight is whether King Thor could defeat Anti-Monitor by himself with the Odinforce. Sinestro Corps War Anti-Monitor did tank a lot of damage.

AM wins. His attack was able to incinerate GL easily. His mere touch was corrupt and hurt(for a long time) a Guardian of the universe.

He was able to take the attack from the Guardian easily.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
AM wins. His attack was able to incinerate GL easily.

Originally posted by Enyalus
It didn't incinerate Yat or Sorinak...

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I don't remember them being there?

GLC #17. The issue before Prime fights Ion.

Originally posted by Enyalus
GLC #17. The issue before Prime fights Ion.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
He was barely breathing

King Thor's far beyond a Green Lantern.

Originally posted by Enyalus
He took two shots. And was alive. And didn't have the Ion Power upgrade there. And so was Sorinak.

King Thor's far beyond a Green Lantern.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Don't you think it weird??

Originally posted by xJLxKing
No way was he going to get up, but the Guardians helped him up.

Originally posted by Enyalus

No. Because AM wasn't at full power during the SCW. So it makes perfect sense.

😬 Guardians didn't touch him. Or help him. [/B]