Originally posted by quanchi112
Lies.
All true. Takes place in the Unpublished Thor Annual #3.5: When the Gardner Strikes!
Originally posted by EnyalusI always hated guy. Such a stupid character. I hope his bar goes outta business!!!!!
The whole reason KT took over the Earth was to unite their firepower against Guy in the hopes of driving him back, who he was able to see coming into the Marvel Universe in one of his meditations.All true. Takes place in the Unpublished Thor Annual #3.5: When the Gardner Strikes!
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
COIE Anti-Monitor had already absorbed the power of an undisclosed amount of universes by the time we first see him. Sinestro Corps War Anti-Monitor had not. BIG difference.GLs are not high heralds. Not even close. Kyle, while tapping into the Ion power, contained Imperiex, who wasn't planning on going Big Bang, at the same time that Braniac-13 was absorbing his energies. Context.
Classic Thor has better feats than any post-Crisis GL. And Ion feats don't count. And this is King Thor. Superman Prime does not have PC durability. Sodam Yat got knocked to the ground and kept getting back up immediately. A Daxamite with a GL ring. That should reveal how potent Sinestro Corps War Anti-Monitor's attacks are.
GL's have better containment weapons, better shields and a limiting factor called willpower.
AM wasn't retconned, he lost considerable amounts of power after COIE but his exploits then were not retconned, he still draws energies from the anti-matter universe, he still has his powerset.
Basically, containing an anti-matter wave is a high end feat for GL's: perspective. If you can accept that one herald can achieve high end containment feats, then for the issue of impartiality this goes down as a high end feat for the GL's.
Yat was getting swatted around i.e. blunt force, and he had the benefit of stacking his durability (high subatomic density + bio aura + oan shields), the only reason (according the comic) he wasn't a puddle of blood.
As far as EmoSupes goes, he's a PC character with PC like toughness and strength, I'd say his durability is around PC Kryptonian levels.
Originally posted by AllanklesWhat does a retcon have to do with what he is telling you?
GL's have better containment weapons, better shields and a limiting factor called willpower.AM wasn't retconned, he lost considerable amounts of power after COIE but his exploits then were not retconned, he still draws energies from the anti-matter universe, he still has his powerset.
Basically, containing an anti-matter wave is a high end feat for GL's: perspective. If you can accept that one herald can achieve high end containment feats, then for the issue of impartiality this goes down as a high end feat for the GL's.
Yat was getting swatted around i.e. blunt force, and he had the benefit of stacking his durability (high subatomic density + bio aura + oan shields), the only reason (according the comic) he wasn't a puddle of blood.
As far as EmoSupes goes, he's a PC character with PC like toughness and strength, I'd say his durability is around PC Kryptonian levels.
This Am wasn't at full power and was a cmplete joke compared to coie Am. Using coie feats is ridiculous as we saw what this Am was capable of.
Yat was a mere top tier and Am couldn't put him down with two blasts. King Thor beheaded the destroyer which means Am is in a whole lotta trouble.
Prime is above top tier, but he isn't precrisis imo.
Originally posted by EnyalusPfft. That was just a b*tchslap, and it still cracked the moon. Obviously, if AM were actively fighting a character in his league, he could easily shatter teh moon.
That's...nice. But COIE AM slamming PC Earth-Two Supes into the moon and cracking it slightly isn't the same as the aftershocks of someone's blows totally shattering the moon when they're fighting on Earth...like this:
Originally posted by EnyalusWhat's KT's best anti-matter absorption feat?
Thor can absorb anti-matter. Anti-Monitor produces anti-matter. The fact that it seems deadlier in the DCU can't have any bearing on this matchup. Because what else would we go by, except what Thor's already been shown to do?
Could said energy have destroyed a city? A continent? A world? A galaxy? A universe? What?
Originally posted by Galan007
Pfft. That was just a b*tchslap, and it still cracked the moon. Obviously, if AM were actively fighting a character in his league, he could easily shatter teh moon.What's KT's best anti-matter absorption feat?
Could said energy have destroyed a city? A continent? A world? A galaxy? A universe? What?
Thor usually creates it.
It's no different to him than any other kind of energy.
Originally posted by Galan007
Hmm. Well using anti-matter energy offensively against AM would be pointless anyway. Absorption is the only logical route KT would be able to travel, regarding that energy type. Imo (that's kind of why I was looking for some absorption feats.)
I'm not saying he would attack the AM with it 😐
There's just no reason to assume it would be any problem for him to absorb it. Mjolnir absorbs anything, and in the hands of King Thor it's even more powerful than when used by Classic Thor.
Originally posted by AllanklesNo they don't. Post-Crisis GL's have no feats of containment greater than Mjolnir. And while willpower does limit what a GL ring can achieve, willpower can also exceed a GL ring's capabilities.
GL's have better containment weapons, better shields and a limiting factor called willpower.
Originally posted by AllanklesHe has his powerset, but not the level of power he had in Crisis on Infinite Earths since in that story he had absorbed the power of countless universes and in Sinestro Corps War he decidedly did not.
AM wasn't retconned, he lost considerable amounts of power after COIE but his exploits then were not retconned, he still draws energies from the anti-matter universe, he still has his powerset.
Originally posted by AllanklesI never suggested that the feat didn't count. The feat counts for several dozen GL's. They had the ability to contain galaxy busting energies. So does classic Thor. And this is King Thor, who is wildly more powerful.
Basically, containing an anti-matter wave is a high end feat for GL's: perspective. If you can accept that one herald can achieve high end containment feats, then for the issue of impartiality this goes down as a high end feat for the GL's.
Originally posted by AllanklesNo. Yat was getting blasted. Several times. He was never punched by Anti-Monitor. Not even once. Also, Soranik Natu was blasted and survived. Although it's quite reasonable to conclude that Sodam Yat lead the charge and may have borne the brunt.
Yat was getting swatted around i.e. blunt force, and he had the benefit of stacking his durability (high subatomic density + bio aura + oan shields), the only reason (according the comic) he wasn't a puddle of blood.
Originally posted by AllanklesSuperman Prime has no feats to suggest that he can sneeze away dead galaxies. And Bart Allen has drawn his blood with a speed-blitz.
As far as EmoSupes goes, he's a PC character with PC like toughness and strength, I'd say his durability is around PC Kryptonian levels.
^ You're right. He sneezed away dead solar systems... stickler. uhuh
Originally posted by Kris BlazeThat's anti-force. Not anti-matter. I'm quite confident that they are different things. Thor has only shown the ability to generate anti-matter, manipulate it and Mjolnir is apparently immune to it. But considering that plasma energy shields generated by GLs can contain it and shunt it away, I don't see any reason why Mjolnir couldn't, especially when backed by King Thor.
I guess it would be attacking Mangog with it or using it against the celestials.