Originally posted by james2099
Glad we are not using a pre-determined comicbook fight here 😉 .
a 'pre-determined' comicbook fight? 😑
you mean predetermined by . . . like . . . the WRITER?? surely you're not saying something as crazy as the WRITERS/EDITORS determined the outcome of that fight, are you??
jawdrop
damn . . . that almost NEVER happens . . . 😉
Originally posted by EnyalusHe still has all the power of Thor, just less experience. And I'm only pointing out that beating Masterson Thor (besides the Living Lightning PIS thing) seems to be > beating Wonder Man.
i'd actually disagree with that. masterson was pretty much a clown who had no real idea how to handle thor's power or use it to its fullest extent. he had moments throughout that run, but . . . masterson was beaten down by mongoose. 😐
simon had LOADS of experience and in terms of sheer physical power is nearly a match for thor.
When? Even a much older Gladiator beat normal Thor.
this is the scene i was referring to:
http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thorglads41dl.png
to be clear--i'm not saying gladiator at his best can't take thor, i just give thor at HIS best the solid majority.
😛 Nah.
sez you. 😛
Originally posted by iceman24567How wasn't he impressive?
WW Hulk wasn't impressive i give Gladz a small majority if he uses his hand speed and doesn't take too much damage.
Originally posted by leonidasI'm finally off ignore I see.
damn. we agree.😐
😛
Originally posted by james2099Hulk and Kallark is completely different from Spiderman and Firelord. I mean come on. You act like Hulk always beats Thor or any other hero he faces.
What would have happened if the writers would have decided to LET kallark win?? Can spiderman REALLY compete with firelord?? You knew FULL WELL that spiderman and hulk would win before you even opened the book. Just like this new comic about superman i just brought, I KNOW WHO WILL WIN, oh sure, supes will start out losing, then in the end, WIN. If hulk could compete with Glads, then why was the radiation needed?? Why did the writers have to use it?? Why did gladiator just punch hulk and then turn and dust himself off?? Why did the writers slow gladiator down when he tried to take hulk into space???, yet gladiator took supreme who is millions of times faster than hulk into space before he could react?? YOU GUESSED IT!!!!! The winner was picked by choice, not by power set and ability. Oh, by the way, superman just won 😉
Originally posted by illadelph12Not really. Hulk was more than holding his own before the reactor was brought into play. Hulk dragged him.
Hulk showed that, in a plot driven scenario where Gladiator uses the minimum of his abilities in the confrontation, he can hold his own long enough to miraculously find a nuclear reactor which just so happens to have Gladiator's weakness (which Hulk, miraculously, and inexplicably, is somehow aware of) within it. Those set of circumstances are not available to Hulk here on the forum.In a forum battle scenario Hulk is outclassed due to being one dimensional and not being able to keep up with Kallark, who will not be receiving as much of a beating as the exponentially slower Hulk.
It's in character for Glads to use his speed some of the time, but for the most part he doesn't keep pressing his opponent. WW Hulk takes everything Glads dishes out and wrecks him imo.
Originally posted by The PictIf you read WW Hulk how can you assume he drops him quickly?
That's the way I see it. He could drop him fairly quickly though.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklynYes, he did. A much weaker Hulk was supposedly almost killed by his heat vision. Hulk countered and whipped his ass. This is a smarter, stronger Hulk.
I don't remember that at all.Didn't the Hulk have a massive hole in his chest from Gladiator's heat vision and he scrambled to the factory for cover?
Originally posted by leonidasNo, i mean that if we go by comicbook battles, then spiderman wins over firelord... cannonball wins over gladiator..... storm wins over WonderWoman ETC... Now start a thread about each of those battles and i want you to use the comicbook outcome to say that storm, cannonball and spiderman would beat gladiator, firelord and WonderWoman and watch how fast it gets closed 😉
a 'pre-determined' comicbook fight? 😑you mean predetermined by . . . like . . . the WRITER?? surely you're not saying something as crazy as the WRITERS/EDITORS determined the outcome of that fight, are you??
jawdrop
damn . . . that almost NEVER happens . . . 😉
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingHow is he stronger?
Gladiator for the majority as he is much stronger.
Originally posted by leonidasI don't think you responded since that day though. That was a long time ago.
i'm not sure you ever actually WERE. if you were, it was for like, a day. i can never hold a grudge. 🙂and i was wondering when you were gonna chime in kg. 😂
Originally posted by james2099
No, i mean that if we go by comicbook battles, then spiderman wins over firelord... cannonball wins over gladiator..... storm wins over WonderWoman ETC... Now start a thread about each of those battles and i want you to use the comicbook outcome to say that storm, cannonball and spiderman would beat gladiator, firelord and WonderWoman and watch how fast it gets closed 😉
so, let me get this straight--you're saying that hulk--a character who has more strength feats and more high end feats than nearly any marvel character--beating gladiator--a character who is among the most INCONSISTENTLY portrayed characters in marvel, who has been pushed by COLOSSUS--is in the same class as spidey beating firelord? 😑
hmmmm . . .
you wanna claim hulk beating glads was pis, that's your perogative. looking back at hulk's past records against charaters like thor, juggernaut, hercules, black bolt, the x-men, etc . . . i don't find it difficult to believe in the slightest.
spidey's past record against heralds--a little more sketchy . . .
