Originally posted by Validus
So why you are bitching about 9/10 when you just gave him 9/10 when using super speed?
Because he hasn't used his superspeed enough to validate 9/10 domination?
Same reason why i don't always call out a Godblast in a Thor vs thread, unless i say he uses a random plot device showing.
Even though i'd have more fuel to say Thor uses a godblast in a forum fight, than i'd have to say Teth uses a speedblitz.
Since he's done it more times.
But i rather debate the way characters are consistently shown in comics, rather than focusing solely on their highend alone.
Course, the way i debate now goes countercourse to the way KMC debate rules outline.
Going by comics, Teth is more likely to tackle the hulk, and try to dominate him physically, and i don't see him winning that way 9/10.
I see him winning that way 4 times outta ten, and taking a few more due to the random speedblitz showing, and the last resort thunderbolt call.
That's where i get the 6.5 times outta ten majority.
Originally posted by Validus
All that shit is irrelevant. Point was you jumped on Bran for giving Teth 9/10 who explained it being a combo of strength and speed while you yourself gave him 9/10 for the same reason. It's pretty ridiculous.
You did not read my post.
I gave Teth the hardfought majority because of his brutality, RANDOM/OCCASIONAL speedblitz, and the last resort of calling down the lightning.
My entire post was aimed at disproving the myth that Teth has used his speed anywhere consistently enough to validate a 9/10 sweep.
Lemme break down my 6.5 outta ten.
4 times out of ten, Teth will tackle the giant, and try to manhandle him.
He can get those 4, since he's brutal and a shade stronger initially.
1 of those times out of ten, he'll pull of a major speedblitz, and get the ko.
1 time he'll not make headway with the physical manhandling, so he'll call down the lightning, and get the ko.
.5 for the charged fist attack, which would likely do the job.
VS
9/10 for speed not consistently used on the level of Superman/Flash,
And strength out the ass.
I did not give him the majority for the same reasons, and it's nowhere near being as onesided as Brans prediction.
Originally posted by Validus
You gave him 9/10 by using KMC rules.
Your criticized Bran for giving 9/10 using KMC rules.Don't try and dodge and say otherwise.
Did i give Teth 9/10 yesterday?
Cuz i don't see how 6.5/10, is now synonomous with 9/10.
If you could quote me, i'd concede the issue, but i really don't recall ever giving Teth 9/10 against Hulk.
Originally posted by Validus
You said if he used his speed he'd get 9/10. Under KMC rules, Teth will use his speed. Not sure why this is so confusing for you.
And you missed the part in one of my prior posts where i said i was debating using characters as they're most often showed in comics.
I also admitted it was counter to the course KMC debate rules, which run counter course to the comics and characters themselves, but who am i to try to change the course of rivers.......no Superman am i.
Bran is right in saying 9/10, Teth would beat Hulk, but Xmeat would be right as well in saying that 9/10, Hulk would cosmo clap Teth, or any one of his several high end showings.
Therein lies the flaw of KMC debating.
Characters not welcome, but feats are!!
Originally posted by UniOmni
And you missed the part in one of my prior posts where i said i was debating using characters as they're most often showed in comics.I also admitted it was counter to the course KMC debate rules, which run counter course to the comics and characters themselves, but who am i to try to change the course of rivers.......no Superman am i.
Bran is right in saying 9/10, Teth would beat Hulk, but Xmeat would be right as well in saying that 9/10, Hulk would cosmo clap Teth, or any one of his several high end showings.
Therein lies the flaw of KMC debating.
Characters not welcome, but feats are!!
That's irrelevant anyway. Don't you think it's rather pointless to come here, criticize members for following the rules and then use your own set of debate rules? If you like to debate by the rules of another forum, why not just go to that other forum and have a ball?
Originally posted by Validus
That's not a flaw. Xmeat would just have to realize that speed is superior to the ability to clap. Black Adam has shown speed more often than Hulk has clapped away a cosmos. There goes that theory of yours.That's irrelevant anyway. Don't you think it's rather pointless to come here, criticize members for [b]following the rules
and then use your own set of debate rules? If you like to debate by the rules of another forum, why not just go to that other forum and have a ball? [/B]
I've been owned????
Truly.
On the real, the only speedblitz feat i can remember from Adam, was when he speedfought Jay a while back in JSA.
And he didn't even ko jay, iirc.
Who's to say that same blitz would drop Hulk, someone vastly more durable than the Jayster?
Either way, as easily as one could scream out blitz, another could show up and say clap when character b survives the blitz.
And the main reason why i debate here at all anymore, is because of you, Avy, Jun, Batshit and some others.
Cool posters online are hard to find.
It is pointless of me to criticise Bran for just following the rules, even if they don't make sense.
I'll check my righteous impulses, and stick to KMC style.
Chastised thoroughly.
GAM
Originally posted by UniOmniDid you just compare me to xmeat? Funny...
Bran is right in saying 9/10, Teth would beat Hulk, but Xmeat would be right as well in saying that 9/10, Hulk would cosmo clap Teth, or any one of his several high end showings.
Also, the cosmic clap was a one time feat, and Black Adam's showings are actually averaged.
If the cosmic clap is a feat viable for debating, then what about him not being able to KO Wolverine, just blow back the Avengers, etc.
Didn't he also for one of these redicules feats, have the backing of a weapon that could actually destroy the cosmos, and Hulk only redirected it?
Also, I've seen you say use that feat before, so, it wouldn't be from xmeat's mouth, it would be from yours.
I also remember you talking about BA just tackling Hulk... well, that would be good, but it wouldn't be the best thing for Hulk.
I wonder how many ways BA could do to take out Hulk...
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Did you just compare me to xmeat? Funny...Also, the cosmic clap was a one time feat, and Black Adam's showings are actually averaged.
If the cosmic clap is a feat viable for debating, then what about him not being able to KO Wolverine, just blow back the Avengers, etc.
Didn't he also for one of these redicules feats, have the backing of a weapon that could actually destroy the cosmos, and Hulk only redirected it?Also, I've seen you say use that feat before, so, it wouldn't be from xmeat's mouth, it would be from yours.
I also remember you talking about BA just tackling Hulk... well, that would be good, but it wouldn't be the best thing for Hulk.
I wonder how many ways BA could do to take out Hulk...
The only time i've ever used the cosmo clap, was in a thread where Superman fought a team of 3 top tiers, and 3 midtiers iirc.
Superman got access to his high end, the team for some reason was written off as being koed in a second.
That's the only time i've used the cosmo clap, as a way to show other characters have a high end as well.
I told you this yesterday bran.
And Teth's speedfeats haven't been frequent enough to warrant a 9/10 sweep, i maintain.
Originally posted by UniOmniYou also said that he would KO Superman with it.
The only time i've ever used the cosmo clap, was in a thread where Superman fought a team of 3 top tiers, and 3 midtiers iirc.Superman got access to his high end, the team for some reason was written off as being koed in a second.
That's the only time i've used the cosmo clap, as a way to show other characters have a high end as well.
I told you this yesterday bran.
And Teth's speedfeats haven't been frequent enough to warrant a 9/10 sweep, i maintain.
It's not me, who said he would tackle Hulk.
You really want Hulk to get hit by that?
I never said anything about speed, I just gave that scan out, to show what Hulk will be hit with, since you accordingly want Hulk to be hit by that...
