Superman tagging a flash who's obviously using superspeed is a testament to how fast Superman is himself.
But there wasn't anything like that in the DOS example.
Superman had him, and was taking him to the atmosphere. DD shanked him.
Gladiator had him, and was taking him to the atmosphere. Hulk clapped him.
Similar cases, but one gets flack while the other doesn't.
Bias much?
Originally posted by UniOmniThe difference between getting elbow shanked, and clapped, is that:
Superman tagging a flash who's obviously using superspeed is a testament to how fast Superman is himself.But there wasn't anything like that in the DOS example.
Superman had him, and was taking him to the atmosphere. DD shanked him.
Gladiator had him, and was taking him to the atmosphere. Hulk clapped him.
Similar cases, but one gets flack while the other doesn't.
Bias much?
All you would really have to do, is move your elbow back.
Hulk had to pull back both of his hands, and slam them together towards the person holding him...
Originally posted by Validus
Horrible example because you'd be a tard to think Thor beats Adam (or Hulk) without Mjolnir.
He could, he doesnt need Mjplnir to pull everything hes able to.
Without it, he can go for a tossup, as he has with the Hulk. With BA moreso because he doesnt have dinamic strength.
If BA is shown as stronger now, its due to a supose powerup from Isis. Wich makes sense because at regular levels he never leveled half the DC universe or anything like that.
As a matter of fact, wich big guns have fallen by now a his hands?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Thor would get murdered in a slugfest with BA. Not only is Teth stronger than Hulk, he's also WAY faster.Hulk is not a top tier. He's currently ranked low herald. And losing to him means you're not gonna beat BA in a fistfight.
Edit: Val beat me to it. 😛
Your rantings are tarding.
That being said, BA is being pushed up but we havent seen what currently Hulk is capable of. So comparing both at this time of the game isent going to do anything. Hulk at least held a planet from blowing apart in the "Planet Hulk" storyarc, at least that i recall and thats not your average top tier strength feat (let it be Superman or any other). But direct combat showings remain to be seen.
On Topic again: Any of the two can take it. Glads is faster but since he doesnt dragonbawl either, it wont be much of a factor considering the opponnent its also relativaly high at speeds.
Originally posted by Juntai
Since the last JSA series started they pretty much always had to plot device Black Adam to beat him. No one has been able to beat him that I can recall in a direct confrontation. Closest we have is Superman getting him to stand down, which Black Adam didn't even want to fight him anyways.
You're right, although he fared pretty bad against the Horsemen of Apocalypse, the ones made my Chang Tzu's science squad. He was cut by Death's scythe, which didn't look all that special
Originally posted by llagrokAt first he was too busy with the death of Isis, once she said to get them back, and he got serious, the horsemen as a whole didn't seem to stand a chance.. . and Death actually ran.
You're right, although he fared pretty bad against the Horsemen of Apocalypse, the ones made my Chang Tzu's science squad. He was cut by Death's scythe, which didn't look all that special
It's still tough to gauge how powerful they were, but they're about to fight Superman Wonder Woman and Batman in 52 Aftermath.
Originally posted by Juntai
At first he was too busy with the death of Isis, once she said to get them back, and he got serious, the horsemen as a whole didn't seem to stand a chance.. . and Death actually ran.It's still tough to gauge how powerful they were, but they're about to fight Superman Wonder Woman and Batman in 52 Aftermath.
Yeah, that's what I thought as well. But it seems like Isis saved Adam's life by teleporting Death away. I think both of them were pretty shocked after seeing Osiris' corpse.
Originally posted by olympian
He could, he doesnt need Mjplnir to pull everything hes able to.Without it, he can go for a tossup, as he has with the Hulk. With BA moreso because he doesnt have dinamic strength.
If BA is shown as stronger now, its due to a supose powerup from Isis. Wich makes sense because at regular levels he never leveled half the DC universe or anything like that.
As a matter of fact, wich big guns have fallen by now a his hands?
Your rantings are tarding.
That being said, BA is being pushed up but we havent seen what currently Hulk is capable of. So comparing both at this time of the game isent going to do anything. Hulk at least held a planet from blowing apart in the "Planet Hulk" storyarc, at least that i recall and thats not your average top tier strength feat (let it be Superman or any other). But direct combat showings remain to be seen.
On Topic again: Any of the two can take it. Glads is faster but since he doesnt dragonbawl either, it wont be much of a factor considering the opponnent its also relativaly high at speeds.
I'm calling Bullshit on that first thing you said. I would never give Thor the majority against hulk in a slugfest without his hammer. Nor would I would give him it against Black Adam minus Mjolnir.
there was no powerup. Isis and Osiris's power was his own to begin with. If anything, it's a repowerment. Same with Captain Marvel Junior and Mary Marvel, the power comes from the original (BA or CM).
Big guns? JSA, Flash, Martian Manhunter, Firestorm, and several others.
Hulk would get murdered fighting Black Adam. At least Superman wouldn't dismember him afterwards. BA is crazy.
Dragonbawling? 🙄 So now you have to make up terms because you can't figure out the obvious? That some people are just faster than alot of people on marvel Earth? Glads is fast enough that BA probably can't blitz him, but BA may have a slight combat speed advantage. The big problem for Glads, is that Black Adam has no compunctions about fighting dirty and he's a homicidal maniac when he fights. In the end, BA is willing to go farther to win.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm calling Bullshit on that first thing you said. I would never give Thor the majority against hulk in a slugfest without his hammer. Nor would I would give him it against Black Adam minus Mjolnir.there was no powerup. Isis and Osiris's power was his own to begin with. If anything, it's a repowerment. Same with Captain Marvel Junior and Mary Marvel, the power comes from the original (BA or CM).
Big guns? JSA, Flash, Martian Manhunter, Firestorm, and several others.
Hulk would get murdered fighting Black Adam. At least Superman wouldn't dismember him afterwards. BA is crazy.
Dragonbawling? 🙄 So now you have to make up terms because you can't figure out the obvious? That some people are just faster than alot of people on marvel Earth? Glads is fast enough that BA probably can't blitz him, but BA may have a slight combat speed advantage. The big problem for Glads, is that Black Adam has no compunctions about fighting dirty and he's a homicidal maniac when he fights. In the end, BA is willing to go farther to win.
Black Adam, like all of Shazams champions are powered by six gods normally.
In 52, they specifically mention that he's now powered by seven gods, so there's a powerup in there somewhere.
Hulk would get murdered fighting Teth?
Lol.
And Gladiator is ruthless as well.
Either can take the win over the other, but lol at Teth murdering the Hulk.
Your credibility is so bad it's sad.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
[ The big problem for Glads, is that Black Adam has no compunctions about fighting dirty and he's a homicidal maniac when he fights. In the end, BA is willing to go farther to win. [/B]
Gladiator isn't exactly the nicest guy in the Universe either. He was willing to kill every single person on the Earth the whole milky way Galaxy for the Shiar. People he even knew that lived on the Earth. I think he beats Black Adam. Especially if Adam attacks the Shiar ✅
Originally posted by Hyperion PrimeDifference:
Gladiator isn't exactly the nicest guy in the Universe either. He was willing to kill every single person on the Earth the whole milky way Galaxy for the Shiar. People he even knew that lived on the Earth. I think he beats Black Adam. Especially if Adam attacks the Shiar ✅
Gladiator was willing... Black Adam will kill anyone who gets in his way.
