Originally posted by Battlehammer
Not really. Grundy at the time of the fight was written at some of his highest levels, and even at his lowest levels he still well over 80 tons.
yes really. you can't use examples of batman fights because, simply, he's batman. he does stuff no street leveller can do.
batman doesn't set the bar for street levellers in the slightest, so trying to use any example of him as some sort of bar is just plain ridiculous.
Originally posted by Raoul
yes really. you can't use examples of batman fights because, simply, he's batman. he does stuff no street leveller can do.batman doesn't set the bar for street levellers in the slightest, so trying to use any example of him as some sort of bar is just plain ridiculous.
there vast amounts of street leveler who have taken it to highly strong people. To prtend that halkman briefly fighting black adam makes him well over 2 tons is wrong. If we based people strength level like your trying to do, we have punisher, wolverine, capt, batman DD ect. all well over 2 tons.
now hawlkman could very well be stronger then a 2 tonner, but your example does not prove this
Originally posted by Battlehammer
there vast amounts of street leveler who have taken it to highly strong people. To prtend that halkman briefly fighting black adam makes him well over 2 tons is wrong. If we based people strength level like your trying to do, we have punisher, wolverine, capt, batman DD ect. all well over 2 tons.
it's not the only time hawkman has fought black adam. he's fought plenty of higher tiered people and done fine. he's used his mace to actually hurt people, and even survived against kryptonians.
also, hawkman isn't street level, and adam would rip any of the people you named to shreds if he wanted to.
Originally posted by Raoul
it's not the only time hawkman has fought black adam. he's fought plenty of higher tiered people and done fine. he's used his mace to actually hurt people, and even survived against kryptonians.also, hawkman isn't street level.
cool, but fighting strong individuals does not make you vastly stronger then 2 tons, as batmna, capt, wolverine, DD ect. can all claim the same.
If he has some strength feats and so forth, then fine, but if were basing this strictly off fights, then we best be ready to call many other far stronger then 2 tons as well.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
cool, but fighting strong individuals does not make you vastly stronger then 2 tons, as batmna, capt, wolverine, DD ect. can all claim the same.If he has some strength feats and so forth, then fine, but if were basing this strictly off fights, then we best be ready to call many other far stronger then 2 tons as well.
as i said, using batman is a false argument, as he has superhuman durability in comics even when he shouldn't.
being able to hurt such strong individuals the way hawkman does would put you over 2 tons.
the others, bar bloody wolverine, can't make the same argument.
Originally posted by Raoul
as i said, using batman is a false argument, as he has superhuman durability in comics even when he shouldn't.being able to hurt such strong individuals the way hawkman does would put you over 2 tons.
the others, bar bloody wolverine, can't make the same argument.
No it really wouldent, there huge differences in strength and ability to hurt individuals with punches in comics they dont equate to the same thing.
actaully capt can easily make the arguement he done so with many heavy hitters, hell even DD could make the arguement.
so your saying wolverine well over a 2 tonner?
Originally posted by Battlehammer
No it really wouldent, there huge differences in strength and ability to hurt individuals with punches in comics they dont equate to the same thing.actaully capt can easily make the arguement he done so with many heavy hitters, hell even DD could make the arguement.
so your saying wolverine well over a 2 tonner?
he's not using pressure points. or kung fu. or fancy skills. he's flat out hitting people in the face with his mace. the people he hurts would require him to have superhuman strength past 2 tons.
cap is like batman. doesn't count.
matt? god no.
and no, i'm not. he just has fancy claws.