Mandatory paid time off

Started by King Kandy6 pages

Originally posted by KidRock
Link and proof please?

Or are you confused, again, and mean our NATIONAL DEBT?

Budget deficit = how much money we are in the red each fiscal year the budget is passed or an excess of expenditures over revenues

National debt = The total debt accumulated by a government


I never said "budget deficit", stop putting words in my mouth. I said national deficit, which is another term for national debt.

Originally posted by King Kandy

Note what happened while Reagan and Bush sr. were in office, and how Bush jr. reversed the reductions made by clinton.

And now Obama is running the highest budget deficit since WWII..

But this is okay, ya know, Bush did it too!

I don't think you guys understand how much of your bill is going towards your doctors massive insurance bill.

$250,000 cap would be wonderful for costs.

It's stupid douchebags who sue and get millions for bullshit items that is the problem. And, no, I don't think $7 million should be awarded to the family that lost "little sarah" because she was given the wrong anethesia. $250,000 and loss of license is more than enough if it is shown to be preventable.

Originally posted by KidRock
And now Obama is running the [B]highest budget deficit since WWII..

But this is okay, ya know, Bush did it too!

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Projected, you mean. The national debt was accumulated under Reagan and the bush family so yes, bush did "do it" and now Obama has to carry that budget deficit.

BTW, I like how that graph of yours shows how Bush managed to reverse Clinton's budget SURPLUS. Yeah, that's definitively not screwing our children.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't think you guys understand how much of your bill is going towards your doctors massive insurance bill.

$250,000 cap would be wonderful for costs.

It's stupid douchebags who sue and get millions for bullshit items that is the problem. And, no, I don't think $7 million should be awarded to the family that lost "little sarah" because she was given the wrong anethesia. $250,000 and loss of license is more than enough if it is shown to be preventable.


Most of the bill is going towards the exorbitant prices doctors charge. They are in complete control, because if you can't pay then you die.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Projected, you mean. The national debt was accumulated under Reagan and the bush family so yes, bush did "do it" and now Obama has to carry that budget deficit.

BTW, I like how that graph of yours shows how Bush managed to reverse Clinton's budget SURPLUS. Yeah, that's definitively not screwing our children.

Yeah, amazing surplus Clinton had.

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=5656

Oops, maybe not.

And for laughs: Old Barry Obama will double the national debt just like you claim bush did.

But feel free to stumble over yourself with, "Well, they are just projections"

Ever hear of a Republican strategy detailed at, I believe the 1972 Republican National Convention called the Two Santas Plan?

The idea is that Republicans say they are fiscally conservative. Then when they get in office they spend as much as possible. Then when Democrats get in they're forced to cut back on their policy, make up the deficit, and get mercilessly criticized for any government spending.

It's kind of like how both your parents are responsible for stuff you don't like when your a kid, but in some situations, either mom or dad times/manipulates things to make it appear that he/she is the fun parent and the other one is the "bad guy" who tells you to turn off the Nintendo, put you're homework in your back pack and go to bed.

They are just projections... But that's not the issue.

Reagan tripled national debt. Bush doubled it. Clinton... well it raised a little bit but a lot less then the republicans did. In terms of deficit, Clinton's administration achieved a surplus.

In the past, republicans have increased the by substantial amounts in every single administration since Reagan, whereas democratic administrations have lowered it. So where you get the idea democrats are the ones who "screw your children" is beyond me. Outside of projections (every one of the ones you quoted came from a conservative website.)

I forgot to explain. It's called Two Santas cause it makes one party seem like a second Santa Clause handing out presents while demonizing the other party.

Originally posted by King Kandy
They are just projections... But that's not the issue.

Reagan tripled national debt. Bush doubled it. Clinton... well it raised a little bit but a lot less then the republicans did. In terms of deficit, Clinton's administration achieved a surplus.

In the past, republicans have increased the by substantial amounts in every single administration since Reagan, whereas democratic administrations have lowered it. So where you get the idea democrats are the ones who "screw your children" is beyond me. Outside of projections (every one of the ones you quoted came from a conservative website.)

Again: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=5656

Read, educate yourself and feel happy knowing you're more intelligent.

Ever heard of this little thing called the Dot Com bubble?

SINCE Reagan? There have been 2 Democrats in office since then..one of which is doubling the national debt and raising the deficit to its highest numbers since WWII.

Originally posted by King Kandy
projections (every one of the ones you quoted came from a conservative website.)
Originally posted by King Kandy

lol oh please..is that really the best you can muster?

I had no idea the Congressional Budget Office was a conservative viewpoint.

Lmao, it is a WHITE HOUSE ESTIMATE.

No, I meant the CATO one.

Originally posted by King Kandy
No, I meant the CATO one.

I didn't post any projections from the CATO website..

When I said projections, I actually meant explanations.

Originally posted by King Kandy
When I said projections, I actually meant explanations.

So what about the projections then?

You gave three of them and they all had very differing numbers. The heritage one is inaccurate and suggests that National debt when Obama took office was 5 trillion when it was more like 10 trillion. The other graph gives CBO and white house estimates, and I don't know which one of those is more credible.

Originally posted by King Kandy
You gave three of them and they all had very differing numbers. The heritage one is inaccurate and suggests that National debt when Obama took office was 5 trillion when it was more like 10 trillion. The other graph gives CBO and white house estimates, and I don't know which one of those is more credible.

The numbers are different because they are 2 different graphs showing 2 different things.

I don't know how you would argue that the White House's own estimates or the Congressional Budget Office's estimates are not credible.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I already get 30+ days off a year...I just don't take the days off.

I cash out my PTO (Paid Time Off). I get 10 days a year, paid for, by my employer, outside of PTO. (Paid holidays.) I usually take of 3-5 days for vacation, a year. More days than that is just a tad excessive for me.

In other words, Nya Nya. 😛

This legistlation won't do anything for me.

I don't think this legislation should exist, though.

You don't like the vacation options you have? Work for someone else.

Can't get a job that has those vacation options? Tough shit. 😐

I really wish you had explained what PTO means.

Originally posted by KidRock
The numbers are different because they are 2 different graphs showing 2 different things.

I don't know how you would argue that the White House's own estimates or the Congressional Budget Office's estimates are not credible.


The two estimates by CBO and White House are different. They can't both be right, at least one is wrong. I don't know which of the two to believe.