Rogue-storm vs Apocalypse

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
If what-ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas.

I applaud you considering the possibilities, man, but I don't think I could ever concede to possibilities versus what has actually happened. Personally, I think you're giving how much Storm can "cut loose" far too much credit and what "we could imagine" far too little credit.

I mean, how do you know Apocalypse isn't holding something back either? How do you know Phoenix's flames can be extinguished by a vacuum? How can you compare Storm flying through space by maintaining an atmosphere around her with Phoenix flying through space by being sustained by her own energy?

Most importantly: Why do all Storm debates go back to comparing her to Phoenix?

like i said i was using it as a metaphor please try to comprehend that. and if apoc WAS holding back which i highly doubt since hed tried to take over the world multiple times then that was just not make any since and i was giving theory throughout my statement BECAYSE we really dont and by we i mean nobody knows how far or powerful storm really can be..

Originally posted by shiv
No one has suggested how Apocalypse can survive a succession of 2.5 gigaton** optic blasts in a manner which does not require suspension of disbelief.

** That would be where Storm utilises basic skills to reroute em flux in the sub orbital atmospheric energy grid across the two hemispheres into focused beams.

Claiming Apocalypse can create a cybernetic device with or without moving parts... instantaneously and without specs to withstand that kind of charge continuously is pushing the boat.

The closest we've got to achieving such a level of intensity is with The Livermore Petawatt Laser Project. Peak Energy output was clocked at 0.58 megatons per picosecond from an Energy input valued at ~700j = less than a milkshake or a bowl of capt'n crunch to produce a blast in excess of the combined energy output of every power plant in operation worldwide.

Those were flat-scan scientists shaping energy.

For Storm creating phenomenon out of existing energy systems is basic skills. There is sufficient energy contained within the Upper Atmosphere to power or destroy Earth. Storm is able to perceive that energy and diverge it to destroy Apocalypse.

Originally posted by stormfront
thats actually not too farfetched of an idea. storm has created similar beams before i beleive.

hysterical

Originally posted by psycho gundam
hysterical

apoc loses

Only in Storm's delusional dreams, while she will be slowly dying on ground, beaten and broken...

Originally posted by Survivor19
Only in Storm's delusional dreams, while she will be slowly dying on ground, beaten and broken...

dotsGet out

Originally posted by shiv
No one has suggested how Apocalypse can survive a succession of 2.5 gigaton** optic blasts in a manner which does not require suspension of disbelief.

** That would be where Storm utilises basic skills to reroute em flux in the sub orbital atmospheric energy grid across the two hemispheres into focused beams.

Claiming Apocalypse can create a cybernetic device with or without moving parts... instantaneously and without specs to withstand that kind of charge continuously is pushing the boat.

The closest we've got to achieving such a level of intensity is with The Livermore Petawatt Laser Project. Peak Energy output was clocked at 0.58 megatons per picosecond from an Energy input valued at ~700j = less than a milkshake or a bowl of capt'n crunch to produce a blast in excess of the combined energy output of every power plant in operation worldwide.

Those were flat-scan scientists shaping energy.

For Storm creating phenomenon out of existing energy systems is basic skills. There is sufficient energy contained within the Upper Atmosphere to power or destroy Earth. Storm is able to perceive that energy and diverge it to destroy Apocalypse.

Originally posted by stormultt
like i said i was using it as a metaphor please try to comprehend that. and if apoc WAS holding back which i highly doubt since hed tried to take over the world multiple times then that was just not make any since and i was giving theory throughout my statement BECAYSE we really dont and by we i mean nobody knows how far or powerful storm really can be..

I have even better suggestion.
You stop this.

Because there're scissors for Storm.

Regular attacks won't phase Nur in the slightest.
Powerful attacks will consume time, that can be spent on summoning heavy artillery. Poccy has tech that can drag people outta timestream, why do you think neutraliser would be hard to bring?

You also overestimate Storm's protection form TP or her teleport jamming abilities. Storm isn't maneuvrable enough to evade Poccy, if he chooses to do aerial fight Archangel-style. She has no protection against forvefields projection as well - and he can just do that, like he did with Exodus back in the day.
Finally, there is always body transfer.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I think you should suggest how Storm will channel all that energy without killing herself without suspension of belief. When she tried channeling the core it wasn't long at all before she put herself out of operation. I say try because the core is many, many light years wide and thus would take many years for its fastest energies to reach Storm, even with some unknown accelerant.

I'm going to stop you right there. If we're going to discuss this do you think you can not be a total dick about it?

oh sweet heart im not being a dick about anything im discussing something and trying to help you all understand what i was saying so tell me im being a diuck about shit if i aint talking or replying to you and if i am please dont come at me like that or i will act like something unclassy like. thank you very much

Let's keep it above the belt ya'll.

fine w/e i told my reasons on why i KNOW shed take some wins and igave reasons on how APOC would take sum wins..

Apocalypse ftw..

Originally posted by stormultt
oh sweet heart im not being a dick about anything im discussing something and trying to help you all understand what i was saying so tell me im being a diuck about shit if i aint talking or replying to you and if i am please dont come at me like that or i will act like something unclassy like. thank you very much

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I'm not coming at you like anything, I'm flat out telling you you're being a jerk. Look, "please try to comprehend that" is flat out saying you think I'm incompetent or stupid. Calling me "sweet heart" is arrogant.

im not acting like a jerk if i was id insult you RIGHT NOW!, but im just going to continue being the classy,polite person i am. and i am sorry if i "insulted" or offended you now please lets move on.. 🙂

This thread is a joke.

Apocalypso bitchslaps.

Originally posted by Lord S
This thread is a joke.

Apocalypso bitchslaps.

Your idiocy is a joke so please take ya lame comments somewhere else if you have no idea what your talking about so goodbye...

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I think you should suggest how Storm will channel all that energy without killing herself without suspension of belief. When she tried channeling the core it wasn't long at all before she put herself out of operation. I say try because the core is many, many light years wide and thus would take many years for its fastest energies to reach Storm, even with some unknown accelerant.

ok you need to understand, limiteless power. you need to understand that this isnt storm from waaaay back then. she is now more powerful as regular storm than she was back then. this is rouge storm, and that means she is able to summon the cores power easily and mostlikely more power from it.

Originally posted by stormultt
Your idiocy is a joke so please take ya lame comments somewhere else if you have no idea what your talking about so goodbye...

Pot.Kettle.Black to you my young friend.

I have been through this mess of a thread and have yet to see you present a compelling case for your favourite character. All I've seen is incoherent rabid fanboyism that makes stormfront look...smart.

Originally posted by stormfront
ok you need to understand, limiteless power. you need to understand that this isnt storm from waaaay back then. she is now more powerful as regular storm than she was back then. this is rouge storm, and that means she is able to summon the cores power easily and mostlikely more power from it.

It looks like the difference between normal Thor and the new Thor that beat the **** out of Iron Man. He explained he wasn't more powerful, he just wasn't pussyfooting around. Same deal in my eyes.

I completely understand limitless power, possibly more than Chris Claremont at the time he wrote that story. I can see how in a way she would have unlimited power to draw from but she obviously didn't have the power to harness it with no limit. She really didn't do any lasting damage and afterward I believe she says Thor could beat the crap out of the storm she made while she was Rogue-Storm.

apoc puts a foot up her ass ftw!