Wolverine vs Batman vs Captain america H2H ONLY

Originally posted by jinzin
ugggg Zone are you just gonna do this argument for argument's sake thing all over again? I'm not in the mood.
No, as I ALREADY said, I'm arguing that SHIELD's files were not as up to date as Stilt assumed, and clearly they must not have been if Telepathy wasn't in the game plan.

Whether Gorgon was stronger after his resurrection, the SHIELD files were in error, or he's a chi amper... OR by sheer skill alone, he was definitely hitting Wolverine with punches and strikes like a mac truck. So I would think he was hitting with more than 2 tons of force by an assload.

Right, so him ****ing up Wolverine isnt because of class 2 (edit strength upgrade) strength but skill, got it.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It should be noted that he attacked him both physically and mentally.

Originally posted by jinzin
It looks like he's biting down on it and using his arms to brace it.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Right, so him ****ing up Wolverine isnt because of class 2 strength but skill, got it.

Ooooorrrrr a combination of both, since he can't rely have one without the other... nice logic though as always....

Originally posted by snoopdogg
If he used his teeth it would have broke close to his mouth I would think.

Dunno about that. i mean i that's the rationale why didn't it break closer to his hands?

Originally posted by jinzin
Dunno about that. i mean i that's the rationale why didn't it break closer to his hands?

Originally posted by jinzin
That's an absoulutely fair and valid point... I've just been at odds with his class ranking vs. his performance... and was Millar even going by 1 ton = class 1 rating or something else?

IMO he just meant that Gorgon can military press no more than two tons under optimal conditions.

That rating system wouldn't go with that, as there is no "Class 2".

By the way, according to the handbook, Gorgon is somewhere in 800 Ibs - 25 tons range. 4/7. Class 2 would be okay.

Originally posted by jinzin
Ooooorrrrr a combination of both, since he can't rely have one without the other... nice logic though as always....

Ermm thats what I meant dummie, obvoulsy you cant throw a pucnh without using some strength.

Oh and what I meant to say was.....you're saying its due to skill not strength upgrade (in other words skill is the main factor)?

I just went and looked at Gorgon's bio in All-New Marvel Handbook Hardcover vol. #4 and it states Gorgon can lift a little less than a ton.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Because he used his mouth to brace it then bent the sword and it bent and broke at the stress point which is about half way down the blade on both sides. If he shattered it with his mouth it would have broke right where his mouth is.

It's not half way down on both sides.. 😕

it's closer to his teeth on either sides of his mouth.. but hey, it's your logic.

Originally posted by jinzin
I.... guess... I'm not really sure that explains Wolverine FUBR physical state after getting slugged out by Gorgon though. 😕

He complained about his liver and left lung. Both of them were pierced by Gorgon's sword, weren't they?

Originally posted by jinzin
It's not half way down on both sides.. 😕

it's closer to his teeth on either sides of his mouth.. but hey, it's your logic.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Ermm thats what I meant dummie, obvoulsy you cant throw a pucnh without using some strength.

Can you go one god damned day without being a complete asswipe?

You said because of skill "not" strength....

And, it's spelled "dummy" you friggin retard.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Oh and what I meant to say was.....you're saying its due to skill not strength upgrade (in other words skill is the main factor)?

I'm saying that Gorgon was hitting Wolverine with what looked to be more than 2 tons of force and that there could be multiple explanations for why.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He complained about his liver and left lung. Both of them were pierced by Gorgon's sword, weren't they?

Look I could be wrong, but those punches looked devistating and definitely not consistent with how Wolverine reacts to class 10 punches much less class 2.

At any rate I'd still assume it's safe to say Elektra's beating from him heavily outweighs that of the 3 punches Punisher took from U.S. Agent.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I said about halfway. Gorgon didn't break the blade with his teeth.

Originally posted by jinzin
No it's not, your logic fails.

As I already said, it looks like he bit down on the sword and it broke. Your logic to the stress points of the fractures in the sword needs to take into account that the sword broke closer to his mouth on both sides than his hands by a ratio of 2/1 on the right and even more than that on the left. 😬

Originally posted by jinzin
Can you go one god damned day without being a complete asswipe?

Go to hell. *shrug*

Originally posted by jinzin

You said because of skill "not" strength....

Read what I said again and dont tell me what I mean.

Originally posted by jinzin

And, it's spelled "dummy" you friggin retard.

Realise how stupid that statement was? Think about it.

Originally posted by jinzin

I'm saying that Gorgon was hitting Wolverine with what looked to be more than 2 tons of force and that there could be multiple explanations for why.

Fine.

Originally posted by jinzin
Yeah but I'm talking about his swollen face and head in a crater of concrete.

Look I could be wrong, but those punches looked devistating and definitely not consistent with how Wolverine reacts to class 10 punches much less class 2.

At any rate I'd still assume it's safe to say Elektra's beating from him heavily outweighs that of the 3 punches Punisher took from U.S. Agent.

Normal human dislocated Logan's jaw before. Just saying.

Sure they did. IMO his blows were that formidable because of his incredible skill.

I agree.

Guys...

This thread has been off topic. Please take this to the other forum and fight it out there or get back to the thread topic.

And stop with the name calling.