Originally posted by Juk3n
You're on crack and you're reasoning has 🤨 status, Daredevil & Elektra beat Wolverine you say? Well Wolverine would beat Batman anyway so what relevence has that statement got?
that bats has a chance to beat him regardless of how he was beaten or what advantage were used to beat him if they did beat him bats can surely replicate it after all he is the god damn batman. 😉
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneStiltman said he thought Fury's info was up-do-date but they didn't have Gorgon's telepathy, superspeed, or regenerative abilities on the short file they read out... IF he was stronger than class 2 I wouldn't be surprised, the guy bit Elektra's sword into pieces.
What are you trying to imply that Gorgon must have been stronger than class 2.
Originally posted by jinzin
Stiltman said he thought Fury's info was up-do-date but they didn't have Gorgon's telepathy, superspeed, or regenerative abilities on the short file they read out... IF he was stronger than class 2 I wouldn't be surprised, the guy bit Elektra's sword into pieces.
So you are trying to imply he was stronger. Smashing a sword with your barehands dpesnt rpove you are above class 2, especialy when you're a martial art expert....come on.
Originally posted by jinzin
Stiltman said he thought Fury's info was up-do-date but they didn't have Gorgon's telepathy, superspeed, or regenerative abilities on the short file they read out... IF he was stronger than class 2 I wouldn't be surprised, the guy bit Elektra's sword into pieces.
It would be lame if he listed all of Shishido's powers. Fury likes to keep it short. Getting down to the nitty-gritty. It's very probable that that file contained more information. Although forgetting to mention telepathy would seem a little unusual, I agree.
We don't know much about Gorgon's past. Maybe originally he didn't possess super strength at all? Then again, he effortlessly sliced through all those ninjas and one casual kick sent that tree trunk towards them.
Oh yes, sword-biting feat was awesome 😂
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
So you are trying to imply he was stronger. Smashing a sword with your barehands dpesnt rpove you are above class 2, especialy when you're a martial art expert....come on.
He didn't smash the sword with his bare hands. 😐
He bit it into pieces. 😐
And I'm just saying that SHIELD clearly wasn't up to date on all his powers as Stilt assumed. Who knows what Gorgon's packing, Wolverine was still trying to figure him all out before the end of their throwdown.
Originally posted by jinzin
He didn't smash the sword with his bare hands. 😐He bit it into pieces. 😐
Yeah ok I dont think thats enough to rpove he had an upgrade.
Originally posted by jinzin
And I'm just saying that SHIELD clearly wasn't up to date on all his powers as Stilt assumed. Who knows what Gorgon's packing, Wolverine was still trying to figure him all out before the end of their throwdown.
Stlit also mentioned that they didnt neccesarily want to go through everything. I also mentioned that Wolverine might ahve got upgraded due to the Hand all I got was insulted, now you're arguing that Gorgon is upgraded. 🤨
Originally posted by jinzin
And I'm just saying that SHIELD clearly wasn't up to date on all his powers as Stilt assumed. Who knows what Gorgon's packing, Wolverine was still trying to figure him all out before the end of their throwdown.
I just can't see why Millar would have Fury said that if it weren't true. I mean, it was Gorgon's first appearance, so everyone would remember him as Class 2... I don't see the point in confusing readers that much.
I think I remember in biology that the jaw muscles are supposed to the strongest or something like that...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle#The_.22strongest.22_human_muscle
In ordinary parlance, muscular "strength" usually refers to the ability to exert a force on an external object—for example, lifting a weight. By this definition, the masseter or jaw muscle is the strongest. The 1992 Guinness Book of Records records the achievement of a bite strength of 4,337 N (975 lbf) for 2 seconds. What distinguishes the masseter is not anything special about the muscle itself, but its advantage in working against a much shorter lever arm than other muscles.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah ok I dont think thats enough to rpove he had an upgrade.Stlit also mentioned that they didnt neccesarily want to go through everything. I also mentioned that Wolverine might ahve got upgraded due to the Hand all I got was insulted, now you're arguing that Gorgon is upgraded. 🤨
ugggg Zone are you just gonna do this argument for argument's sake thing all over again? I'm not in the mood.
No, as I ALREADY said, I'm arguing that SHIELD's files were not as up to date as Stilt assumed, and clearly they must not have been if Telepathy wasn't in the game plan.
Whether Gorgon was stronger after his resurrection, the SHIELD files were in error, or he's a chi amper... OR by sheer skill alone, he was definitely hitting Wolverine with punches and strikes like a mac truck. So I would think he was hitting with more than 2 tons of force by an assload.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I also mentioned that Wolverine might ahve got upgraded due to the Hand all I got was insulted, now you're arguing that Gorgon is upgraded. 🤨
He had some upgrades/gadgets, like teleport jumps, invisibility, special lenses, he could hack into FF's mainframe... all of them were temporary, though. Speed-boosts weren't canon.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I just can't see why Millar would have Fury said that if it weren't true. I mean, it was Gorgon's first appearance, so everyone would remember him as Class 2... I don't see the point in confusing readers that much.
That's an absoulutely fair and valid point... I've just been at odds with his class ranking vs. his performance... and was Millar even going by 1 ton = class 1 rating or something else?
Originally posted by jinzin
Whether Gorgon was stronger after his resurrection, the SHIELD files were in error, or he's a chi amper... OR by sheer skill alone, he was definitely hitting Wolverine with punches and strikes like a mac truck. So I would think he was hitting with more than 2 tons of force by an assload.
It should be noted that he attacked him both physically and mentally.
