Wizards vs Mutants

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Lose a body and you're gone.

Possession is one of Voldemorts powers, The fact that he can do it after being killed makes him that much more powerful.

When have the wizards just took the air to fight people? Thats not something they regularly do.

Ok, he never did it but you're saying he can't? He froze other things before but if thats how we are going to play it then. Harry nor none of most of the wizards have done the DS in the movie so they can't. Voldy has never possessed a mutant so he can't.

Harry knows the death spell, and if his life was in danger he'd use it.

Voldy has never possessed a mutant so he cant.......lets think about that a second......So on that note, Xavier has never mind raped a wizard so he cant, DP has never disintegrated a wizard so she cant. DO you really wanna continue on this note?

Everything in the films count, but if there is an article(An event) or scene that needs further explanation, than outside material like Wikipedia is ok.

For example, Voldemort can only posess weak willed people. That counts both in the books and movies. He can mindrape almost anyone using legilimens, though.

Originally posted by Mindset
That's not a defense.

She could rip them apart before they can do anything to counter, not to mention she is not fighting alone.

How long does it take Vold to possess and kill someone, and has he ever done this in the movies?

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Everything in the films count, but if there is an article(An event) or scene that needs further explanation, than outside material like Wikipedia is ok.

For example, Voldemort can only posess weak willed people. That counts both in the books and movies. He can mindrape almost anyone using legilimens, though.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Is it implied that Quirrell was weak willed? I cant remember.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Yeah, everything he was doing he did against his own will. This is explicit in the book and pretty heavily implied in the movie.

Because...he was posessed?

I imagine posession being almost the same kind of magic as "imperio".

On the other hand, Iceman would freeze like a quarter of Hogwarts before any curse hit him, movies or not.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Because...he was posessed?

I imagine posession being almost the same kind of magic as "imperio".

On the other hand, Iceman would freeze like a quarter of Hogwarts before any curse hit him, movies or not.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch

On the other hand, Iceman would freeze like a quarter of Hogwarts before any curse hit him, movies or not.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
EXACTLY. Quirrell still had control of his mind, this is proven when he is talking to Voldy at the end. But Voldy had control of Quirrell's body. It has nothing to do with will.

To answer your second question, watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNXr0oI-ngo

The mutants are better coordinated and trained than the wizards. While the bigshots are dealing Dark Phoenix, Storm, Xavier, Deadpool and Nightcrawler among others, Bobby can freeze multitudes of students who have no training whatsoever.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Harry escaped posession through pure will power. 🙄

To answer your second question, watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNXr0oI-ngo

The mutants are better coordinated and trained than the wizards. While the bigshots are dealing Dark Phoenix, Storm, Xavier, Deadpool and Nightcrawler among others, Bobby can freeze multitudes of students who have no training whatsoever.

Harry escaped possession HOW? Is that your final answer? Because it is absolutely wrong.

Bobby is shit. If he shoots Ice at a wizard, Reducto, the Avada Kedavra. Plus a death eater will be on the move, a moving target, not standing there like Pyro.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Harry escaped possession HOW? Is that your final answer? Because it is absolutely wrong.

Bobby is shit. If he shoots Ice at a wizard, Reducto, the Avada Kedavra. Plus a death eater will be on the move, a moving target, not standing there like Pyro.

How many of those wizards knows how to apparate? Bobby would freeze the whole lot of them. The X Men and the Brotherhood are highly trained, much moreso than the brutal Death Eaters. They would pull guerilla tactics, not barge right in. They would have the tactical advantages even though they aren't on their own terf.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Through will power. Watch from 3:00 onwards http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNXr0oI-ngo

How many of those wizards knows how to apparate? Bobby would freeze the whole lot of them. The X Men and the Brotherhood are highly trained, much moreso than the brutal Death Eaters. They would pull guerilla tactics, not barge right in. They would have the tactical advantages even though they aren't on their own terf.

No, man. Harry was able to resist for the same eason Voldy's avada kevadra didnt work on him.

Stop. Please stop praising Iceman. He was shit in the movies.

Harry was immune to AK because his mom inadverently put a protection spell on him by sacrificing herself. Quirrell was clearly a weak willed man, and Harry a strong willed one.

Fred and George were officially adults in the fifth movie meaning they could apparate legally, and they'll probably show in the next movie that you are only taught teleportation when you are 16 at Hogwarts.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Harry was immune to AK because his mom inadverently put a protection spell on him by sacrificing herself. Quirrell was clearly a weak willed man, and Harry a strong willed one.

Fred and George were officially adults in the fifth movie meaning they could apparate legally, and they'll probably show in the next movie that you are only taught teleportation when you are 16 at Hogwarts.

Yes, obviously at a certain age one is taught to apparate, and?

No, Voldemort posessed Harry . He couldn't do a full body possession because the wizard police were coming, but attempted to mind**** him into madness. Harry resisted this through sheer will power and the fact that Voldy was disgusted by his "innate goodness"(Rowlings words, not mine). And if he did do a full body possession, he would probably be even more repulsed. It has nothing to do with the reason Harry survived as a baby.

Most of the students will be too shocked and stunned by the awesomeness of Iceman and will stand still to let him freeze them. jk

They can't teleport, they lose.

Voldemort cannot do a repossession thing, that was already discussed in regards to Palpatine and it was decided that his body dying counts as death/incapacitation. Plus if allow it then the fight becomes ridiculously one-sided (well, more one-sided then it is, only for the wizards now) as Voldemort becomes invincible. Also, if you allow Voldemort to do this, you should allow Xavier to do the same with brain-dead guys, in which case the fight still goes to the mutants as Xavier would just shut Voldys mind down from half a continent away. Heck, even if he's a spirit, as long as he a form of consciousness, Xavier or Peonix would break him.

And didn't Iceman create a thick wall of ice in X2? That should slow down some spells, especially if he does a portable version. And he could almost certainly kill, or incapacitate if he wanted to.

Movie feats only as well. If they haven't shown they can apparate, they can't

Voldemort took years to recover from both of his deaths, so it's totally null and void anyway.

Point

Originally posted by Nephthys
Voldemort cannot do a repossession thing, that was already discussed in regards to Palpatine and it was decided that his body dying counts as death/incapacitation. Plus if allow it then the fight becomes ridiculously one-sided (well, more one-sided then it is, only for the wizards now) as Voldemort becomes invincible. Also, if you allow Voldemort to do this, you should allow Xavier to do the same with brain-dead guys, in which case the fight still goes to the mutants as Xavier would just shut Voldys mind down from half a continent away. Heck, even if he's a spirit, as long as he a form of consciousness, Xavier or Peonix would break him.

And didn't Iceman create a thick wall of ice in X2? That should slow down some spells, especially if he does a portable version. And he could almost certainly kill, or incapacitate if he wanted to.

Movie feats only as well. If they haven't shown they can apparate, they can't