Ganon, Kratos, and Link vs Sephiroth, Dante, and Megaman.

Started by ScreamPaste11 pages

Would it kill you to take the risk and decipher it for me, because I legit cannot understand what he's talking about.

If you do, and I reply, that kind of circumvents what you're saying, yes?

Somebody needed a translator, and I'm doing this one since my last job was a prank call.

Originally posted by Burning thought
They dont lie in our world, that is if their done by adequate people. Our world is based on tangible rules not fiction that is based on the whims of its developers, not the public. 😉

Your math is based on rules of our maths and our universe without enchanted items, and our rules of math are based on facts, you dont have facts on LOZ because your basing such direct and apparently accurate measurements on what you can see from the rock and the idea that its granite. Despite it going against the philosophy of LOZ (gadgets, tonnes of equipment, puzzles etc not brute force) as well as not actually stated by developers. Hell even that guide you claim says its granite could be questionable.

Never consistent, hes lifted one type of stone ,thats it....

Ive seen only one serious game from Zelda, thats Twilight princess and even that having been developed by the same people with the similiar idea and character is debatable. Its ridiculous because A: your maths is based on what is simply a move to make up for bad graphics that cannot show a more clear scene. If Link was really that strong, or canon they would not need silly little schemes and Link would never need any other weapon other than perhaps the Mastersword for killing Ganon as according to your math he is probably invincible t almost every other entity in the game. This goes for the link you claim just as strong as the one with the Golden gauntlets.

"Fiction doesn't have real world physics unless it helps my argument."

A lengthened version of the above. This paragraph also includes a false assumption of his understanding of the Zelda lore, despite an admittance of never playing a Zelda game.

That's just wrong. I know what it says but that just can't be what it says. It's just so wrong...

"I clearly don't know what I'm talking about." Apparently the only reason Link lifted that stone was to make up for the N64's bad graphics. It also has a choice A without a choice B. I love Singular Choice questions, you never fail those tests.

The last bit of that paragraph is evidence of his lack of understanding for the Zelda world because he says that Link would never need a weapon other than the Master Sword, when we all know the focus of the dungeons is to get the dungeon's item and use it on the rest of the dungeon.

"I clearly don't know what I'm talking about." Apparently the only reason Link lifted that stone was to make up for the N64's bad graphics. It also has a choice A without a choice B. I love Singular Choice questions, you never fail those tests.
Wait, so he's legitimately suggesting bad graphics are to blame for Link lifting and throwing a pillar? I thought I /had/ misunderstood, turned out I just under-estimated his ability to make illogical statements.

If Link was really that strong, or canon they would not need silly little schemes
..This is confusing, what schemes, does who need, when?

and Link would never need any other weapon other than perhaps the Mastersword for killing Ganon as according to your math he is probably invincible t almost every other entity in the game.
The master sword's all you need to use to beat Ganon, the other items are all useless, except for light arrows.

The last bit of that paragraph is evidence of his lack of understanding for the Zelda world because he says that Link would never need a weapon other than the Master Sword, when we all know the focus of the dungeons is to get the dungeon's item and use it on the rest of the dungeon.
The other items are tools to help you free the sages/rescue the maidens/goal of that temple/dungeon.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Wait, so he's legitimately suggesting bad graphics are to blame for Link lifting and throwing a pillar? I thought I /had/ misunderstood, turned out I just under-estimated his ability to make illogical statements.

..This is confusing, what schemes, does who need, when?

The master sword's all you need to use to beat Ganon, the other items are all useless, except for light arrows.

The other items are tools to help you free the sages/rescue the maidens/goal of that temple/dungeon.

Yeah that first one's just terrible.

I think by the schemes he was referring to the entire plot of OoT. "Ganon is so ****ing powerful we'd be raped normally so we've got to endow ourselves with every conceivable advantage we can possibly have."

Well yeah in most of these VG fights. But we know in the Zelda games we need them.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Kratos possesses the fastest reaction-time.

The ugly ass brute has faster reaction speed than Mr. Bishie who pisses on bullets in terms of speed? I'm referring to Dante, not the other Mr. Bishie on his team.

Bumpz.

Dante's the only one gimped ._. I know Mega's great but dont know why..

Megaman is strong enough to lift a section of Dr. Wily's fortress that weighs more than Saviour's fist.

Besides the strength people go on about how he can match or beat Samus.

That's mostly based on his strength, IIRC. He's strong enough to damage her suit and stuff, and based on power scaling fast enough to catch her, but how much damage he can take from her beams and stuff is indeterminable.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
That's mostly based on his strength, IIRC. He's strong enough to damage her suit and stuff, and based on power scaling fast enough to catch her, but how much damage he can take from her beams and stuff is indeterminable.

Samus >>>> Mega Man X

Wave Beam, besides adding damage allows her already incredible stacked beam damage to go straight past shielding and annihilate the insides. mmm mmm better.

I bet Megaman X could take Samus. He is definitely stronger, may or may not have have a better arm cannon, and can probably keep up with her when she isn't using Speed Booster.

They are extremely well matched, from what I've seen. I still think Samus would win, but X is really formidable.

If I recall, our Megaman expert Acrosurge said that the original Megaman had version one of the megabuster, which "punched through steel." Megaman X has version 17. So what is 17 times stronger than Steel?

Version 17 doesn't necessarily make it 17 times stronger. 😛

I believe that was what Acrosurge said.

There are bugs in Metroid that tear through steel.

Kratos

Spoiler:
with hope
would tear Dante and Sephiroth apart.

Say hope again, I dare you say ****ing hope again!

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice

"Fiction doesn't have real world physics unless it helps my argument."

A lengthened version of the above. This paragraph also includes a false assumption of his understanding of the Zelda lore, despite an admittance of never playing a Zelda game.

That's just wrong. I know what it says but that just can't be what it says. It's just so wrong...

"I clearly don't know what I'm talking about." Apparently the only reason Link lifted that stone was to make up for the N64's bad graphics. It also has a choice A without a choice B. I love Singular Choice questions, you never fail those tests.

The last bit of that paragraph is evidence of his lack of understanding for the Zelda world because he says that Link would never need a weapon other than the Master Sword, when we all know the focus of the dungeons is to get the dungeon's item and use it on the rest of the dungeon.

The N64 cannot show real world physics so they just made Link do any number of funnny little actions. Their showing hes strong but their not showing hes a 1000 tonner because A: the developers rarely if ever get that technicle but more importantly B: The physics shown are not realy physics, if it was on a newer system where they can actually take into account arc, forces when the block falls etc then sure, maybe it would work but nah. DMC, GoW 3, LoK? sure, the physics could be half believable, link barely lifting the block and then tossing it without hardly movement? nopies!

nah he would never need a weapon, he could just pick up a few rocks and smash them through the objects.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No, I legit can't decipher it. Reword it for me and I'll reply.

😆 you cant even debate so i dont know why you even try, you should copy and paste this for all my posts or just ignore them. Your arguments are petty and weak, you couldnt argue your way out of a paper bag 😉