Originally posted by ScreamPasteGOW does not Follow the laws OF LOZ. its a everyman for the thems selves world. so you can't say Kratos is evil when i can say he's not so moot
Kratos opinion of his own actions is moot, they are evil by any logical standard, especially the standard that LoZ characters operate on.
That's not evil, that's indifference. It's only evil if it's done out of an intentional malice, or from a sadistic streak. Kratos, contrary to poplular belief, is neither, as what he does is eventually the benefit for the greater good, even if that part doesn't mean sh*t to him.Wrong. That IS evil, ends do not justify means, and what about the ship captain? No malice indeed... -.- Kratos is a sadistic **** and he enjoys causing pain and death. Good character idea, still evil though.
The Ganon, the big beast thing that actually fights link in the game where he has the Golden Gauntlets is not the typical Ganon, and so....unfortunatley the only Ganon you can attribute any of your delusions to, is the big beast form....which oddly enough, is not the guise he takes in the other games. So....the Link in that game, as well as the Ganon are useless to you in Link vs threads unless it is specifically stated he has those items and the characters are of those versions.Actually, the huge beast form is the version Ganon takes in all of the games before OoT, and Ganon also appears as GanonDORF for the first time ever in that same game, so you're incorrect.
GOW does not Follow the laws OF LOZ. its a everyman for the thems selves world. so you can't say Kratos is evil when i can say he's not so mootEvil exists in every universe, just not always as a definite, or as a tangible force. The boy who steals candy from his sibling is commiting an evil act on a small scale, Kratos killing the ship catpain for fun, doing all sorts of other horrible things for selfish reasons, this is evil. And his opinion doesn't matter, because the reason it's important is how the sword would react to him, and it'd read him off as eviler than Hitelr, imho.
Edit; furthermore BT, there's no toonforce feats in Zelda. -.- Goron bouncing doesn't detract from the strength required to throw it.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteI say Kratos isn't evil and morals are a Matter of oppinion obvious since you keep say who is bad and who is goood. so i say Kratos is neutral so moot your point
Wrong. That IS evil, ends do not justify means, and what about the ship captain? No malice indeed... -.- Kratos is a sadistic **** and he enjoys causing pain and death. Good character idea, still evil though.Actually, the huge beast form is the version Ganon takes in all of the games before OoT, and Ganon also appears as GanonDORF for the first time ever in that same game, so you're incorrect.
Originally posted by Phanteros
GOW does not Follow the laws OF LOZ. its a everyman for the thems selves world. so you can't say Kratos is evil when i can say he's not so moot
kratos's actions make him evil. quest for power, killing innocents sounds like ganondorf's M.O. so link would interpret him as evil.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Wrong. That IS evil, ends do not justify means, and what about the ship captain? No malice indeed... -.- Kratos is a sadistic **** and he enjoys causing pain and death. Good character idea, still evil though.Actually, the huge beast form is the version Ganon takes in all of the games before OoT, and Ganon also appears as GanonDORF for the first time ever in that same game, so you're incorrect.
So? its not the form we see him in now, and its not the form we debate in VS matches.
Show me Ganon/GanonDORF (the humanoid version) blocking Link while he is wearing the golden Gauntlets.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteNo one in god of war is evil. notice that everyone there is in a state of anarchy. you only see the exterior of kratos and not the interrior.
Evil exists in every universe, just not always as a definite, or as a tangible force. The boy who steals candy from his sibling is commiting an evil act on a small scale, Kratos killing the ship catpain for fun, doing all sorts of other horrible things for selfish reasons, this is evil. And his opinion doesn't matter, because the reason it's important is how the sword would react to him, and it'd read him off as eviler than Hitelr, imho.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Wrong. That IS evil, ends do not justify means, and what about the ship captain? No malice indeed... -.- Kratos is a sadistic **** and he enjoys causing pain and death. Good character idea, still evil though.
No, that wasn't malice, that was a matter of priority. Kratos returned for the key, not to drop the guy down just for the sake of amusement, it was out of the fact that he had no need to use the captain, only the key. Sadism is taking amusement in seeing and causing death and destruction. If everything he did was for the sake of amusement, then he would actually be shown revelling in the countless deaths he leaves in his wake; Kratos doesn't even smile, let alone show implication of emotion towards killing someone. Again, indifference. Cruel indifference, no less, but not sadism.
Link fought Ganon as a human and beast in OoT, not just one, so yes, he fought both forms of Ganon, and those are the forms that we use in debates.
Ganondorf [human form] in OoT needs to be stunned just to be able to get through his defenses with Link's sword.
Ganon [beast form] disarms Link with a single swing in the same game. 😐
Ganondorf is stronger then Link even with the golden gauntlets in canon, and in TP the only reason Link could overpower him is because Ganon had been weakened from three rounds of fighting prior. It's still incredibly impressive, but unquantifiable, just like Kratos holding apart Atlas fingers, we have no idea how hard Atlas actually squeezed.