Originally posted by Phanteros
no you are once again trying to put Kratos in a spectrum he isn't in. evil is a wide term. you can't just call someone evil without looking at there past to see why they are the way they are
Actually, you can do exactly that. We can all sympathize with Kratos wanting to kill the gods because of the torment they put him through, but his actions to attain the power to do that very act is still sometimes fall into the evil mindset.
He is evil, by your logic, Phanteros, I could kill your parents and not be evil because someone's parent tocuhed me innapropriately as a child. -.O
In DnD Kratos is chaotic evil. In Zelda, the universe that cares, he's evil as hell. The sword will register him as evil.
Just because evil doesn't exist as a philosophical tendency in GoW doesn't mean it doesn't exist, A LOT of things Kratos does are pure evil, regardless of intent, so he doesn't kill EVERYTHING, he still is VERY unnecessarily violent and cruel, he's evil.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteno one is clear evil. Kratos has remediable point to where gannon doesn't. he doesn't abid to the laws of Loz because its not his universe. the DnD spectrum was put here to show you that there is no clear evil nor good.
He is evil, by your logic, Phanteros, I could kill your parents and not be evil because someone's parent tocuhed me innapropriately as a child. -.OIn DnD Kratos is chaotic evil. In Zelda, the universe that cares, he's evil as hell. The sword will register him as evil.
Just because evil doesn't exist as a philosophical tendency in GoW doesn't mean it doesn't exist, A LOT of things Kratos does are pure evil, regardless of intent, so he doesn't kill EVERYTHING, he still is VERY unnecessarily violent and cruel, he's evil.
Originally posted by ScreamPastehe doesn't enjoy what he is doing he freed atlas for the torment he put him through. he sacrifice the chance to bring his daughter back to save the world on his on accord. does that make make him evil? to give up the chance to ever save his daughter for the sake of the world?
He is evil, by your logic, Phanteros, I could kill your parents and not be evil because someone's parent tocuhed me innapropriately as a child. -.OIn DnD Kratos is chaotic evil. In Zelda, the universe that cares, he's evil as hell. The sword will register him as evil.
Just because evil doesn't exist as a philosophical tendency in GoW doesn't mean it doesn't exist, A LOT of things Kratos does are pure evil, regardless of intent, so he doesn't kill EVERYTHING, he still is VERY unnecessarily violent and cruel, he's evil.
Originally posted by ScreamPastethe sword will also find that Kratos save his world from the destruction. and refuse to attack.
And Kratos CLEARLy falls into the evil section, and whether Kratos abides by the laws of LoZ or not, the sword does, and the sword will smell the evil on him, and purge it. o_O
Originally posted by Phanteros
no one is clear evil. Kratos has remediable point to where gannon doesn't. he doesn't abid to the laws of Loz because its not his universe. the DnD spectrum was put here to show you that there is no clear evil nor good.
Yes, Kratos has a past that explains his actions, but sympathy does not equal non-evil.
For example, if a paladin's son was killed by a burglar, the Paladin would feel the urge to find that burglar and make him pay, yes? We see the paladin as good and the burglar as evil. However, if said burglar was only stealing from the paladin's son because he had no money to feed his family, could we still view the burglar in the same light? No, but that doesn't excuse him from killing the paladin's son. The paladin, being a paragon of virtue good and order, might refrain from killing the burglar, but he would still have him arrested, likely.
Originally posted by XanatosForevernot all paladins behave like that see arthas
Yes, Kratos has a past that explains his actions, but sympathy does not equal non-evil.For example, if a paladin's son was killed by a burglar, the Paladin would feel the urge to find that burglar and make him pay, yes? We see the paladin as good and the burglar as evil. However, if said burglar was only stealing from the paladin's son because he had no money to feed his family, could we still view the burglar in the same light? No, but that doesn't excuse him from killing the paladin's son. The paladin, being a paragon of virtue good and order, might refrain from killing the burglar, but he would still have him arrested, likely.
Originally posted by Phanteros
he doesn't enjoy what he is doing he freed atlas for the torment he put him through. he sacrifice the chance to bring his daughter back to save the world on his on accord. does that make make him evil? to give up the chance to ever save his daughter for the sake of the world?
You really should have put that as a spoiler. I'm still trying to beat the game. >.<
Originally posted by ScreamPasteso Kratos is bad because he save his world in sacrifice of to revive his daughter?
1: There's no record of the sword ever refusing to attack.2. No, it'll smite him for doing it wrong. The sword knows about saving worlds, it's what thw sword does, without being a jerk.
Originally posted by Phanteros
not all paladins behave like that see arthas
I know not all paladins function the same way, I was using a generic lawful good paladin. There's also a chance the paladin could have killed the burglar anyway, but following the rules for D&D, that would then risk him falling out of grace with his deity, because killing the burglar even after knowing the crime was unintentional would be an evil act.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteto bad it can't kill ganon currently, so link need the silver arrows to defeat him. but nether the less kratos isn't plain evil
1: There's no record of the sword ever refusing to attack.2. No, it'll smite him for doing it wrong. The sword knows about saving worlds, it's what thw sword does, without being a jerk.