A,M,M,D,C Vs. L,G,K,S,C

Started by Obsidian Fury16 pages
Originally posted by LLLLLink
What is Medivh's greatest feat of TK?

Pulling up a chain of islands from the bottom of the sea with massive temples and dungeons on them.

Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
Pulling up a chain of islands from the bottom of the sea with massive temples and dungeons on them.

Wasn't that Gul'dan?

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Wasn't that Gul'dan?

No, he resurfaced it.

I stand by my previous decision that the Warcraft side wins.

Things do point at that, yes. It's somewhat even, though. It would have been more even had:

- Medivh and Kratos been replaced. Cloud been traded up. Sephiroth not been their backup (Or Malygos not been the backup of team one). Medivh can hide forever if need be. A strategy could be to wait Malygos out.

I believe that the Mixed side have demonstrated that Ganondorf can is needed be locate Medivh through his Cosmic(?) awareness while I don't think it has been efficiently proved that Starkiller could do the same. Ultimately both sides takes losses that is unavoidable if not from anything then collateral damage.

Last Guardian implies that if Medivh doesn't want to be found, he won't be. Not even adept spells could spy on him in Karazhan. Even cosmic awareness can be blocked, if you have the means to it.

Seems a bit to wide imo, would that mean that beings like Algalon which can apparently rather easily determind the state of a entire planet can't find Medivh (with Medivh in control)?

To my knowlegde Medivh have never blocked such a seach, but ofcause it's more then possible that Sargeras knows what is it and how to efficiantly counter it (else it's very like that the Titans would have cleaned out the Legion a long time ago..)

Originally posted by Utrigita
Seems a bit to wide imo, would that mean that beings like Algalon which can apparently rather easily determind the state of a entire planet can't find Medivh (with Medivh in control)?

To my knowlegde Medivh have never blocked such a seach, but ofcause it's more then possible that Sargeras knows what is it and how to efficiantly counter it (else it's very like that the Titans would have cleaned out the Legion a long time ago..)

Medivh is a luminous source of power. When he revived himself, I want to believe there's a reason why he was believed dead, why no one sensed him. Although that's beside the point.

What I'm saying is that a spell that was weaved for the purpose to spy on Medivh was proved useless, it is within his capability to hide his existence when he doesn't want to be seen. A spell that cover the universe is not necessarily stronger than one that cover a room. It's only wider. Given Khadgar was only a novice magician, who was trying to spy on the most talented mage on Azeroth at his homefield. I think the mages of Kirin Tor tried too, though. Not sure.

We don't know what Algalon the Observer found and didn't in his search. Medivh didn't interest him. He could've seen him, if he's even on the planet anymore. Medivh's last message was rather cryptic.

Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
Medivh is a luminous source of power. When he revived himself, I want to believe there's a reason why he was believed dead, why no one sensed him. Although that's beside the point.

What I'm saying is that a spell that was weaved for the purpose to spy on Medivh was proved useless, it is within his capability to hide his existence when he doesn't want to be seen. A spell that cover the universe is not necessarily stronger than one that cover a room. It's only wider. Given Khadgar was only a novice magician, who was trying to spy on the most talented mage on Azeroth at his homefield. I think the mages of Kirin Tor tried too, though. Not sure.

We don't know what Algalon the Observer found and didn't in his search. Medivh didn't interest him. He could've seen him, if he's even on the planet anymore. Medivh's last message was rather cryptic.

kk we are more ore less in agreement 🙂

Last Guardian is one of the best books I've read. I should read it again. Might bring up more Medivh feats as well.

I just need to get hold of it 😐

I could walk down and burrow it at the library today hm

Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
Last Guardian is one of the best books I've read. I should read it again. Might bring up more Medivh feats as well.

I just need to get hold of it 😐

I have it in digital form right here 😛

Digital form is kind of tough to read. I'm happier with good old books 🙂 A friend of mine has the book. I'll steal it from him. Although I'd be reading it for the fun of it, not to gather feats 😛 But you never know what new knowledge you come across.

I guess Medivh and God Kratos was a little over the top, and Cloud somewhat below the recommended level. I'm sure next thread I make will end up a little more even.

Oh yeah. Dont forget that Ganondorf can revive fallen members (as I'm sure someone on team 1 can...)

That's a new power. How does it work? And yeah, Cenarius can do that too. Medivh can revive himself, but I doubt that's allowed in this thread.

Malfurion can do it too, however I'm sure that Q what's the ability disabled for the battle.

Would kinda defeat the purpose if they can keep on bringing eachother back 😛

But only Kinda 😛