My Crew vs Orcs in LOTR

Started by Phantom Zone10 pages
Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Orc aren't the same as Uruk-Hai, I already posted that.

I couldnt be arsed to type Uruk-hai, yes im pretty sure I saw humans killing Uruk-hai.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Also, an axe and a bullet are two different things. They work differently. For example, Gimli cleaved a Orc's head off using a Axe. can you do it using a Bullet? Of course not.

You're not getting it. The claim is being made that they are super resistant to injury if they can die from somebody who doesnt neccsarily have superhuman strength they are not going to have super resistance to bullets.

StiltmanFTW CBvF
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I couldnt be arsed to type Uruk-hai, yes im pretty sure I saw humans killing Uruk-hai.

Even Peter Jackson killed one shocklaugh

xJLxKing Senior Member

I couldnt be arsed to type Uruk-hai, yes im pretty sure I saw humans killing Uruk-hai.

Of course they kill them. It's war. Uruk-hai aren't unbeatable.

You're not getting it. The claim is being made that they are super resistant to injury if they can die from somebody who doesnt neccsarily have superhuman strength they are not going to have super resistance to bullets.

Again, PROVE that gimli has strenght like a Human. So far, they as much as human are Orcs are Human. They are resiliant to temperature, they are short, believed to have no woman dwarf, and live so much more.

Not only that, but in the LOTRverse, Human aren' really just like us. They too live longer lives. I am not sure but wasn't Aragorn like 175, or something like that when he died?

read the part about "nature"
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Dwarves

Kris Blaze Restricted

Aragorn wasn't a regular human....

StiltmanFTW CBvF
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Not only that, but in the LOTRverse, Human aren' really just like us. They too live longer lives. I am not sure but wasn't Aragorn like 175, or something like that when he died?

Aragorn wasn't a normal human, he was a Dunedain. Theoden was "just a man".

StiltmanFTW CBvF

BTW Aragorn was 87. He stated that in TT extended version.

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Aragorn wasn't a normal human, he was a Dunedain. Theoden was "just a man".

Dunedain is a country, is it not? Or was it something like Gondorian? Forgot!

Either way, he was Human, but not like us Human.

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
BTW Aragorn was 87. He stated that in TT extended version.

I don't know what you are talking about. He died ar again 210! Go check it out!!

Kris Blaze Restricted
Originally posted by xJLxKing
I don't know what you are talking about. He died ar again 210! Go check it out!!

He was 80 around the movies...

And he lived to 210.

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
He was 80 around the movies...

And he lived to 210.


Exactly, so they aren't exactly like us. There are differences.

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Of course they kill them. It's war. Uruk-hai aren't unbeatable.

Please try not to get the point. The point is that they are not super resistant to injury.

Originally posted by xJLxKing

Again, PROVE that gimli has strenght like a Human. So far, they as much as human are Orcs are Human. They are resiliant to temperature, they are short, believed to have no woman dwarf, and live so much more.

Well for starters he wasnt able to push a warf rider off him and was struggling or needed help afterwards to get free. This thread is based on the film I dont think I need to read anything.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Not only that, but in the LOTRverse, Human aren' really just like us. They too live longer lives. I am not sure but wasn't Aragorn like 175, or something like that when he died?

So you're average human warrior lives to 175?

Kris Blaze Restricted
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Exactly, so they aren't exactly like us. There are differences.

Most of them are....Theoden is.

Aragorn is not.

xJLxKing Senior Member

Please try not to get the point. The point is that they are not super resistant to injury.

I never said Super. All i said was more resistant then Human, which so far proves my point.

Well for starters he wasnt able to push a warf rider off him and was struggling or needed help afterwards to get free.

Lol! First of all, he snapped the guys neck easily. Second of all, that Warg was very heavy. Even in the movie, they look bigger then Cow. Lets see a human do that.

So you're average human warrior lives to 175?

In LOTR, it seems like it.

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Most of them are....Theoden is.

Aragorn is not.


What are you talking about.

Rohan is part of Gondor, the same kind of people. They just broke apart, but at the end, a King returns and puts it all back.

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Dunedain is a country, is it not? Or was it something like Gondorian? Forgot!

Either way, he was Human, but not like us Human.

Numenor was a country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunedain

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I don't know what you are talking about. He died ar again 210! Go check it out!!

That's right. I meant that he was 87 in TT.

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by xJLxKing
I never said Super. All i said was more resistant then Human, which so far proves my point.

Which isnt enough to make a difference.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Lol! First of all, he snapped the guys neck easily. Second of all, that Warg was very heavy. Even in the movie, they look bigger then Cow. Lets see a human do that.

The point is he didnt do anything beyond what a human could do.

Originally posted by xJLxKing

In LOTR, it seems like it.

So you have a list of the ages of the warriors in helms deep and how long they lived?

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Originally posted by xJLxKing
What are you talking about.

Rohan is part of Gondor, the same kind of people. They just broke apart, but at the end, a King returns and puts it all back.

I don't know the full story, but Theoden wasn't Dunedain, that's for sure.

xJLxKing Senior Member

Which isnt enough to make a difference.

In the movie, a berserker took two shots from a bow. He kept on going like it was nothing. Also, they have armor, shields, and could even use meat shields.

The point is he didnt do anything beyond what a human could do

Even though I already proved, and post a website where it says they are Super "strong". Or something like that.

So you have a list of the ages of the warriors in helms deep and how long they lived?

My point is, you don't know how Human in Lort are compared to us. They live longer. They also have a few other traits different from us.

Aragorn was 87 in TT, did he even look like 87? Of course not!

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I don't know the full story, but Theoden wasn't Dunedain, that's for sure.

Actually, the link you proved explained it. Dunadains are men from the west. IE: Gondor, Númenóreans, and Rohan. They are all Dunedains; theoden was from Rohan.

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Eowyn was shocked when she found out Aragorn was Dunedain... they're quite rare and can't be confused with normal humans, really.

Characteristics

The Dúnedain were superior to other Men in nobility of spirit and body, although they were still capable of evil if corrupted. They were tall, with dark hair and grey eyes.

In addition, Dúnedain, especially those of high rank, possessed great wisdom and discernment, and occasional prophecy. They benefited from longer life-spans (three times the life of a regular man) than ordinary men and could retain their youth until the very end of their days. Though the reason is not fully explained in the 'Tale of the Years', one thing that led to the diminishment of the Dúnedain was their tendency to have few children, in many cases only one. Aragorn came from a long line of only one child.