My Crew vs Orcs in LOTR

Started by Phantom Zone10 pages

Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
Won't the team tire after some time? 10.000 is a lot of people to slay. Before they are dead, the team might be exhausted. Especially since they will run out of ammo after about one thousand or three dead.
1000s of orcs can be killed with booby traps. 1 gatling gun can kill 100s.

Meh, mines alone wouldn't be that useful, it would be c4 and stuff that will get kills.

Anti Personnal mines are designed to injure people wearing stuff like kevlar, not kill them, thats why they're banned under Geneva Convention.

And steel plate armour would probably survive just as well in such a situation...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Uruks are superhuman durable, that's common knowledge. To quote Saruman, "You know no pain, you know no fear (...)".

Boromir is a Dunedain.

sarumon isnt the omniscient narrator. what he says doesnt actually mean anything. proof from the canon books show that urukhai run when theyre getting beaten and can be killed by single slashes and stabs just like everyone else. and the dunedain are not superhuman, they only live longer like the elves. if you want to keep making these statements provide actual proof from the books or get out. your sentiments are ridiculous no offense.

Originally posted by WO Polaski
sarumon isnt the omniscient narrator. what he says doesnt actually mean anything. proof from the canon books show that urukhai run when theyre getting beaten and can be killed by single slashes and stabs just like everyone else. and the dunedain are not superhuman, they only live longer like the elves. if you want to keep making these statements provide actual proof from the books or get out. your sentiments are ridiculous no offense.

Obviously they run, but they aren't scared. They run because they can't win. Would you not do the same?
Also, it common knownledge that Uruk-hai are very stronger. They are very durable, they don't get tired as easily as Human, orc, or even goblins(almost the same as Uruks).

A fetal hit from a Axe, sword, or arrow would kill anyone superman human. It would probably kill Spiderman, Captain America, Batman..etc. It will even kill a Uruk.

Dunedains are actually more experienced, they have valor, are brave..etc. All this adds to their strength.

1000s of orcs can be killed with booby traps. 1 gatling gun can kill 100s.

1 Gatling Gun would give hundreds, but where are they going to hide when a volley of arrow comes to them?
Booby traps vary, if you want to say it can kill 1000s(which is absurd), then you have to prove that it can. I don't know if there is a booby trap that can kill thousands of people, and if there is I doubt Frank or anyone has it.

I already think they can do but there are other avenues. LIke blowing up the side of the moutain and burring a bunch of orcs... or even collapsing a wall on top of the orcs. OR just using lighting the wole field on fire with napalhm.

Again a coupe chaingun built out of a stone window, not much orcs can do about that but hope to hit a very small target very far away.

Again The team takes this it's just gonna take a while.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I already think they can do but there are other avenues. LIke blowing up the side of the moutain and burring a bunch of orcs... or even collapsing a wall on top of the orcs. OR just using lighting the wole field on fire with napalhm.

Again a coupe chaingun built out of a stone window, not much orcs can do about that but hope to hit a very small target very far away.

Again The team takes this it's just gonna take a while.


Suddenly, there is a window.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I already think they can do but there are other avenues. LIke blowing up the side of the moutain and burring a bunch of orcs... or even collapsing a wall on top of the orcs. OR just using lighting the wole field on fire with napalhm.

Again a coupe chaingun built out of a stone window, not much orcs can do about that but hope to hit a very small target very far away.

Again The team takes this it's just gonna take a while.

You got a point one thing I stated was that it was a castle full of items that you would find in a castle. Im sure there would be alot of oil ,mix that with gunpowder and im sure they can think of something.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Suddenly, there is a window.

have you ever seen a ****ing castle before?

In most castles there are almost always windows so archers an shoot out of and not get hit. You think the team is just gonna stand out side where there is no cover on top of some spire shooting down??

Or do you think there are no such tactical windows in all of helms deep supposedly the strongest defended city in the whole damn story.

Okay lets just say for some crazy ass reason the designer of Helms deep decided that windows was not in fashion and the ovious benefits of being able to shoot out of window and not get hit by enemy just seemed too good to be true.

Their are sheilds, would be no problem for the tam to find a way to prop a few shield over themselves.

Like really no windows??!!! wtf

Originally posted by Lord Feron
have you ever seen a ****ing castle before?

In most castles there are almost always windows so archers an shoot out of and not get hit. You think the team is just gonna stand out side where there is no cover on top of some spire shooting down??

Or do you think there are no such tactical windows in all of helms deep supposedly the strongest defended city in the whole damn story.

Okay lets just say for some crazy ass reason the designer of Helms deep decided that windows was not in fashion and the ovious benefits of being able to shoot out of window and not get hit by enemy just seemed too good to be true.

Their are sheilds, would be no problem for the tam to find a way to prop a few shield over themselves.

Like really no windows??!!! wtf


There a difference between a castle, and a stronghold/fortress.

Did you ever see Helms deep in the movie? No windows! Not from what I seen.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
have you ever seen a ****ing castle before?

In most castles there are almost always windows so archers an shoot out of and not get hit. You think the team is just gonna stand out side where there is no cover on top of some spire shooting down??

Or do you think there are no such tactical windows in all of helms deep supposedly the strongest defended city in the whole damn story.

Okay lets just say for some crazy ass reason the designer of Helms deep decided that windows was not in fashion and the ovious benefits of being able to shoot out of window and not get hit by enemy just seemed too good to be true.

Their are sheilds, would be no problem for the tam to find a way to prop a few shield over themselves.

Like really no windows??!!! wtf

LOL JLX is just making posters say WTF all over.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
There a difference between a castle, and a stronghold/fortress.

Did you ever see Helms deep in the movie? No windows! Not from what I seen.

Like he said shield formation like the Romans.

Like he said shield formation like the Romans.

So now they have shield. Okay! Well you might as well give them a Hydrogen Bomb since you want them to win so badly.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
So now they have shield. Okay! Well you might as well give them a Hydrogen Bomb since you want them to win so badly.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

4. Castle full of stuff you would find in a castle....no pun intended. My crew already know where everything is located before prep starts.

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facepalm

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
facepalm

So in addition to having all sorts of grenades, guns, bombs, traps, they now have a castle full of weapons.

Well it can help them out but I still don't see how they can win. They are going to make a square formation on top of the wall, and a Gatling gun in the center shooting. If they do that, it will still make them vulnerable to Balistas, and increase the chances of Uruks getting to them quicker.

The Ninja's will still die from a volley or arrows. Where are the others going to stay??

Windows and stuff were there

Originally posted by mrcharlieo
Windows and stuff were there
Those aren't windows. Some of them don't have an opening.

The top can not be reached. However, if you want to say it can, then a good Balista would destroy it and killing anyone in it.

the wooden things on hinges could definately block incoming arrows, as for balista's I imagine they would eliminate those and other heavy weapons first to minimise the effectivness of the attacking army, and seeing as they would supposedly have rocket launchers I don't see that being a problem.

As for the volley of arrows wiping out the ninjas quickly, I don't recall the orcs/uruk-whatevers actually firing a volley of arrows at any point during the battle in the movie (haven't read the books), the elves fired volley's the other guys just had a few crossbows and fired about 8 times that we saw.

Originally posted by mrcharlieo
the wooden things on hinges could definately block incoming arrows, as for balista's I imagine they would eliminate those and other heavy weapons first to minimise the effectivness of the attacking army, and seeing as they would supposedly have rocket launchers I don't see that being a problem.

As for the volley of arrows wiping out the ninjas quickly, I don't recall the orcs/uruk-whatevers actually firing a volley of arrows at any point during the battle in the movie (haven't read the books), the elves fired volley's the other guys just had a few crossbows and fired about 8 times that we saw.


They fired crossbows at them.

Also, Balista have a huge range. Also, if they focus on killing them first. The soldiers will get to the keep very quickly.

Helms deep was held by 2,000 old men and kids for 1 night, and 100-200 elves I believe. 2,000 in the books in the movie its 300.

NInja's arent gonna be standing around outside getting hit was random arrows.

As for ballitas yeah that might be a problem but I'm seriously banking of bullseye shooting ballitas out of the sky and changing the trajectory.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
ballitas yeah that might be a problem

What are those?