My Crew vs Orcs in LOTR

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
What are those?

Now to prove my point. Look at this video. There was over 800+ arrows flying at them non-stop. It didn't even stop them. Look how much ladders they have going up. Don't forget, you can't kick those ladders down easily.

Here is a Ballista in action. It's at 5:40.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9SQn0qDd1g&feature=related

Originally posted by Lord Feron
NInja's arent gonna be standing around outside getting hit was random arrows.

As for ballitas yeah that might be a problem but I'm seriously banking of bullseye shooting ballitas out of the sky and changing the trajectory.

Okay, so Bulleyes will be destroying Balista(which I doubt he could easily). The Handninja's will be hiding? What about the 10,000 Uruk-Hai that are scaling the walls and using that explosive device?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
So you don't know and you have been arguing against them. Nice!!
It's a weapon created by Saruman. It's a huge crossbow, something like catapult, but less damage; it however, does have more accuracy. Here is a picture
https://www.silversnail.com/images/gold/full/action0002229.jpg

I think it the first you mentioned it to me. Anyway I remember those.

Originally posted by xJLxKing

Now to prove my point. Look at this video. There was over 800+ arrows flying at them non-stop. It didn't even stop them. Look how much ladders they have going up. Don't forget, you can't kick those ladders down easily.

Here is a Ballista in action. It's at 5:40.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9SQn0qDd1g&feature=related

Doesnt change anything.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Okay, so Bulleyes will be destroying Balista(which I doubt he could easily). The Handninja's will be hiding? What about the 10,000 Uruk-Hai that are scaling the walls and using that explosive device?

*sigh* There wont be 10,000 by the time they reach the wall.

I think it the first you mentioned it to me. Anyway I remember those.

Doesnt change anything.

The hand ninjas would be shooting the shit out of the orcs and when they do come over the wall they would be massacred. lets say there were 30 ladders or something. ONe or 2 ninjas at each spot to kill orcs as they come up one by one...

By the way mere spelling mistake ballitas / Balista. Don't get all uppity.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
The hand ninjas would be shooting the shit out of the orcs and when they do come over the wall they would be massacred. lets say there were 30 ladders or something. ONe or 2 ninjas at each spot to kill orcs as they come up one by one...

By the way mere spelling mistake ballitas / Balista. Don't get all uppity.

There were more ladders then that.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
No, I mentioned it quite a lot, it just you don't reason, You just want your side to win so badly.

I know what is, just not the name.

Originally posted by xJLxKing

Actually, it does; it changed things a lot. Since someone said, Bulleyes will bet at the Hornburg(or the tower), it will be getting hitting by Balistas. If there is any one on the wall, they would die from a volley of arrows.
If someone tries to make a formation with shields blocking them, then the Uruks will scale the walls pretty easily. Remember, they can scale using the ladders, or Ballistas. Their shield, armor, and meat shields will protect them enough for them to get to the Gate where they can easily break it.
There is also so much they can do to them. They might have the ammo, but they serisouly get out numbered easily.

It would help for staters if you knew that shields cant block machine gunfire

Originally posted by xJLxKing
So now you allow the Ninja's to use guns too???

Of course.

I know what is, just not the name.

t would help for staters if you knew that shields cant block machine gunfire

Of course.

Also, if you want you side to win so badly, then just change the rules.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
So you should know how accurate and dangerous they are.

Yeah and I know they get blown up.

Originally posted by xJLxKing

Of course not, but I think Armor, Shield, and meat shield would be enough to stop a gun.

Why would it when machine gun bullets can go easily through a car door and kill the person sitting on the other side?

Originally posted by xJLxKing

So you changed the rules? Why did you say Hand Ninja's and not 150 men?? obviously, you did not want the ninjas to use guns. Why? Because you said standard equipment.

Also, if you want you side to win so badly, then just change the rules.

I said at the beginning they get a warehouse full of Punishers weapons. facepalm

Yeah and I know they get blown up.

Why would it when machine gun bullets can go easily through a car door and kill the person sitting on the other side?

aid at the beginning they get a warehouse full of Punishers weapons.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Are you sure you know what a Ballista? Seems like you are confusing it with that Magic that Saruman did.

*sigh* Its the big arrow thing....

Originally posted by xJLxKing

Yeah, a car door is like a shield. However, in this case the person has armor too, and meat shield.

The meat shield aint doing shit they UH were getting killed with conventional weapons and damage. Im really dont think the shields are thick enough to stop the bullets, maybe at a certain range but they defintely wont stop a gattling gun.

Also brick wall is probably thicker than shield and armour and bullets effortlessly go through them.

EDIT: In fact I think the bullets went right through the car, but im not entirely sure but im pretty sure machine guns have done that.

Originally posted by xJLxKing

You keep saying that. You speculated that he has thousands of different bullets, guns, explosives, rocket launchers, ammo's...etc. You still have to prove he has ALL of that.

Thats because in one small part of his warehouse we saw something like 100 machine guns, a missle launcher and a gattling gun. Considering that was a small part of his warehouse whats he doing with the rest of the space?

*sigh* Its the big arrow thing....

The meat shield aint doing shit they UH were getting killed with conventional weapons and damage. Im really dont think the shields are thick enough to stop the bullets, maybe at a certain range but they defintely wont stop a gattling gun. Also brick wall is probably thicker than shield and armour and bullets effortlessly go through them. EDIT: In fact I think the bullets went right through the car, but im not entirely sure but im pretty sure machine guns have done that.

Thats because in one small part of his warehouse we saw something like 100 machine guns, a missle launcher and a gattling gun. Considering that was a small part of his warehouse whats he doing with the rest of the space?

Originally posted by Lord Feron
The hand ninjas would be shooting the shit out of the orcs and when they do come over the wall they would be massacred. lets say there were 30 ladders or something. ONe or 2 ninjas at each spot to kill orcs as they come up one by one...

By the way mere spelling mistake ballitas / Balista. Don't get all uppity.

A constant stream of arrows/crossbow bolts would be able to give the Uruks sufficient cover while they climb up using the ladders.

I dunno, the Uruk's will prolly incur a ton of losses but I can see them overwhelming the team eventually. I don't care how well armed you are, without some serious explosives, you're not taking down 10,000 orcs.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
A constant stream of arrows/crossbow bolts would be able to give the Uruks sufficient cover while they climb up using the ladders.

I dunno, the Uruk's will prolly incur a ton of losses but I can see them overwhelming the team eventually. I don't care how well armed you are, without some serious explosives, you're not taking down 10,000 orcs.

I mean in my first post I thinkl the orcs have a decent chance to face them but some of the vurnabilities people are pointing out arent realistic. I mean I think peole will just tire everntually maybe...

Again I would say th eteam will go through a few 100,000 rounds before they become a serious h2h threat. Even then they could move back and blow th primary wall and then take up a 2nd defense positions near the area where aragon was mowing people down.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I mean in my first post I thinkl the orcs have a decent chance to face them but some of the vurnabilities people are pointing out arent realistic. I mean I think peole will just tire everntually maybe...

Again I would say th eteam will go through a few 100,000 rounds before they become a serious h2h threat. Even then they could move back and blow th primary wall and then take up a 2nd defense positions near the area where aragon was mowing people down.

Once the Uruks get to them where they can do Melee damage, it's over.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I mean in my first post I thinkl the orcs have a decent chance to face them but some of the vurnabilities people are pointing out arent realistic. I mean I think peole will just tire everntually maybe...

Again I would say th eteam will go through a few 100,000 rounds before they become a serious h2h threat. Even then they could move back and blow th primary wall and then take up a 2nd defense positions near the area where aragon was mowing people down.

By the way this is an explosive he was going to use to kill Ulik. Thats a small amount of explosives, imagine how much he has in a warehouse.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7987/pun7rn7.jpg

edit: Hmm he says it has plutonuim in it, on second thoughts im not sure if he would have that hanging around in every warehouse. I am assuming though that this warehouse is one of his best equipped but not the very best.

I don't know if that would have killed Ulik

Originally posted by iceman24567
I don't know if that would have killed Ulik

Not sure if it would have but I think it would have at the very least hurt ALOT.

edit: During that issue he hurt Ulik with an explosive round, so that bomb would have really ****ed him up.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
By the way this is an explosive he was going to use to kill Ulik. Thats a small amount of explosives, imagine how much he has in a warehouse.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7987/pun7rn7.jpg

edit: Hmm he says it has plutonuim in it, on second thoughts im not sure if he would have that hanging around in every warehouse. I am assuming though that this warehouse is one of his best equipped but not the very best.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
By the way this is an explosive he was going to use to kill Ulik. Thats a small amount of explosives, imagine how much he has in a warehouse.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7987/pun7rn7.jpg

edit: Hmm he says it has plutonuim in it, on second thoughts im not sure if he would have that hanging around in every warehouse. I am assuming though that this warehouse is one of his best equipped but not the very best.

You mentioned that there's nothing there more powerful than a rocket launcher, tho.