Wizards Vs. Marvel (corrected version)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I know, innit cool?

Agents that could not see where he is at every moment, agents that could not apparate, agents that possessed no magical powers. doooooooooooooooooh.

Wow thats such a useless response, its almost as if you admitt Nightcrawler would solo them.

You know why they couldn't see him every moment? because he is constantly teleporting. So a wizard could be in the same room as him, by the time he kept checking his gay map, he would've been wtfpwned.

Why does it matter that they can apparate in? Nightcrawler is constantly teleporting too fast to be hit by a spell. Thats the whole point you keep ignoring.

If you can't hit NC with a bullet, you can't hit him with a spell.

Originally posted by Placidity
Wow thats such a useless response, its almost as if you admitt Nightcrawler would solo them.

You know why they couldn't see him every moment? because he is constantly teleporting. So a wizard could be in the same room as him, by the time he kept checking his gay map, he would've been wtfpwned.

Why does it matter that they can apparate in? Nightcrawler is constantly teleporting too fast to be hit by a spell. Thats the whole point you keep ignoring.

If you can't hit NC with a bullet, you can't hit him with a spell.

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Accio

The Summoning Charm is a spell that causes an object at a distance from the caster to fly into his or her arms. The caster must know the general area of the object in order to summon it, and the farther away it is, the harder it is to summon. The spell's incantation is Accio; the caster must point his or her wand at the desired item or name it.

The caster must know the general area of the object in order to summon it.

the caster must point his or her wand at the desired item or name it.

Sooner or later NC will be in a general area taking on wizards, all a wizard needs to do is wait for NC to be jumping around this general area and say "Accio Nightcrawler." The wizard can be nestled safely in the room of requirement, in Hogsmeade, in the Dursleys bed, whereever, consult the Marauders map, and choose the right time to attack. And if they fail, just apparate away and try again.

What's to stop Kurt from just porting away when they do it? And was the accio spell shown on people? I thought Harry only used it to summon his broom and something else in the 4th movie.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Accio

The Summoning Charm is a spell that causes an object at a distance from the caster to fly into his or her arms. The caster must know the general area of the object in order to summon it, and the farther away it is, the harder it is to summon. The spell's incantation is Accio; the caster must point his or her wand at the desired item or name it.

[b] The caster must know the general area of the object in order to summon it.

the caster must point his or her wand at the desired item or name it.

Sooner or later NC will be in a general area taking on wizards, all a wizard needs to do is wait for NC to be jumping around this general area and say "Accio Nightcrawler." The wizard can be nestled safely in the room of requirement, in Hogsmeade, in the Dursleys bed, whereever, consult the Marauders map, and choose the right time to attack. And if they fail, just apparate away and try again. [/B]

So they will be actively doing this while also taking on all the other mutants? Yea sure. This time they also don't know what they are dealing with, because they don't get knowledge of the other teams.
And as mentioned by OP, only Harry Pothead gets the map.

Edit: And also as KingD19 asked, when was this shown to work on people, not objects?

Originally posted by KingD19
What's to stop Kurt from just porting away when they do it? And was the accio spell shown on people? I thought Harry only used it to summon his broom and something else in the 4th movie.

So yeah, Accio works on a living being.

Not sure if Kurt would be able to port while in the grip of a magic spell. But if he does, then the wizard just tries and tries and tries until they zap his ass. Sooner or later they will get him. And if that doesnt work, Voldemort can Legilimens him and turn him on the marvel team.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It worked on his broom, his broom is a solid object, the human body is a solid object, why wouldnt it work? It is never said "Accio works only on inaminate objects."

So yeah, Accio works on a living being.

Not sure if Kurt would be able to port while in the grip of a magic spell. But if he does, then the wizard just tries and tries and tries until they zap his ass. Sooner or later they will get him. And if that doesnt work, Voldemort can Legilimens him and turn him on the marvel team.

I like this "sooner or later" stuff you got going on there. Nightcrawler only takes seconds to take out 10-20 men.

Originally posted by Placidity
So they will be actively doing this while also taking on all the other mutants? Yea sure. This time they also don't know what they are dealing with, because they don't get knowledge of the other teams.
And as mentioned by OP, only Harry Pothead gets the map.

Edit: And also as KingD19 asked, when was this shown to work on people, not objects?

Harry would have the map and have a small group of wizards with him. He could point out where the marvel team members are and the wizards can attack at their leisure.

Accio works on any object, when is it said that it doesnt? If it works on a broom, surely it would work on a human. Face it, you have no way of proving Accio does not work on living beings, while logic dictates that it does.

Originally posted by Placidity
I like this "sooner or later" stuff you got going on there. Nightcrawler only takes seconds to take out 10-20 men.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And while he is taking out 10 to 20 wizards, Arresto Momento is cast, slowing his movement to a crawl. Dumbledore administered this spell from half a qwidditch field away on Harry, without a frigging wand.

So Voldemort, Dumbledore and the other few are never ever part of the "other wizards" that get taken down are they? They are the ones that always get to do cast spells and drink tea, while mutants are attacking *other* wizards. Nope no one ever pays attention to them. Again, the main guys always get free passage, right.

And while Dumbledore is casting his spell, Callisto runs around and knocks him out, how about that?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

Accio works on any object, when is it said that it doesnt? If it works on a broom, surely it would work on a human. Face it, you have no way of proving Accio does not work on living beings, while logic dictates that it does.

Yet it is never ever shown to be used on a person in the film or the books.

Originally posted by Placidity
So Voldemort, Dumbledore and the other few are never ever part of the "other wizards" that get taken down are they? They are the ones that always get to do cast spells and drink tea, while mutants are attacking *other* wizards. Nope no one ever pays attention to them. Again, the main guys always get free passage, right.

And while Dumbledore is casting his spell, Callisto runs around and knocks him out, how about that?

"In chess, the pawns go first." Magneto's words, not mine. The wizards wont be totally defenseless, they will be able to apparate anywhere they want, take flight on broomsticks, or even take flight on their own power (Death eaters and OOTP members, Aurors, etc😉 and attack from above. And please dont bring Storm into this. Sure, she will produce a tornado or two, but she will fall to a death spell quicker than shit.

Calisto? Weeeeeeeeeeeeell.....Whats that thing I am thinking of.........oh yeah, Marauders map. Fast as she is, she will show up on the map. When she does, Accio Callisto, death spell.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
"In chess, the pawns go first." Magneto's words, not mine. The wizards wont be totally defenseless, they will be able to apparate anywhere they want, take flight on broomsticks, or even take flight on their own power (Death eaters and OOTP members, Aurors, etc😉 and attack from above. And please dont bring Storm into this. Sure, she will produce a tornado or two, but she will fall to a death spell quicker than shit.

Calisto? Weeeeeeeeeeeeell.....Whats that thing I am thinking of.........oh yeah, Marauders map. Fast as she is, she will show up on the map. When she does, Accio Callisto, death spell.

So what if you have the map? Shes too fast? Why do you keep ignoring this?

Originally posted by Placidity
Yet it is never ever shown to be used on a person in the film or the books.

Qui Gon Jinn is never shown stabbing his saber through a concrete wall.

Neo is never shown using a shotgun.

Swagger is never shown using a bazooka.

McClane is never shown driving a Porsche.

Riggs is never shown wearing air Jordans.

Doesn't mean they cant, does it?

Until you can prove Accio will not work on a living being (feats from the movie, please), it works.

Originally posted by Placidity
So what if you have the map? Shes too fast? Why do you keep ignoring this?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
"In chess, the pawns go first." Magneto's words, not mine. The wizards wont be totally defenseless, they will be able to apparate anywhere they want, take flight on broomsticks, or even take flight on their own power (Death eaters and OOTP members, Aurors, etc😉 and attack from above. And please dont bring Storm into this. Sure, she will produce a tornado or two, but she will fall to a death spell quicker than shit.

Um, I believe its inside the castle? If it was outside, Storm would rape this shit. Yea death spell again huh, shes too far in the sky to be seen. She could be doing it from anywhere.

Pawns go first... too bad this isn't an open battlefield, there is no "frontline". Its inside a castle with many routes. While the King is more experienced, he is still almost as vulnerable as anyone else.

I also love how you keep bringing the map out as a tool to take out all the mutants that are gauranteed to take out the wizards unless they combined their efforts into stopping them (which leaves them open to other mutant attacks)

The wizards don't know shit about the mutants beforehand. Why would they quickly target the particular ones I'm bringing up?

Originally posted by Placidity
Um, I believe its inside the castle? If it was outside, Storm would rape this shit. Yea death spell again huh, shes too far in the sky to be seen. She could be doing it from anywhere.

Pawns go first... too bad this isn't an open battlefield, there is no "frontline". Its inside a castle with many routes. While the King is more experienced, he is still almost as vulnerable as anyone else.

Inside a castle that the wizards know like the back of their hand, and can go places that team marvel cannot.

Originally posted by Placidity
I also love how you keep bringing the map out as a tool to take out all the mutants that are gauranteed to take out the wizards unless they combined their efforts into stopping them (which leaves them open to other mutant attacks)

The wizards don't know shit about the mutants beforehand. Why would they quickly target the particular ones I'm bringing up?

So they don't know shit, vice versa. They will know shit about a killing curse. Prolly they'll LOL when a wand is pointed at them. First time NC is seem porting around, the wizards will figure out what he can do, and for Storm, Iceman, etc; Thing is, they all have only one power, while a wizard has so many it is ridiculous. The wizards will figure out the marvel team far before the marvel team figures out the wizards.

And the Marauders map, pinpointing each marvel team member at all times, is a great weapon, deny it all you want, you know it's true.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Too far in the sky? Well, its not like wizards cant follow her. They will follow her, swarm her, and rape her, prison style.

Yup, they are going to fly through tornadoes and lightning towards what exactly? They don't even know theres someone there? And I said, she could do it from anywhere, you kinda left out that part huh.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

You do know that the wizards far outnumber the mutants here, right?

No I didn't actually, maybe because they don't outnumber them. Its Wizards @ Hogwarts vs Marvel Universe.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

So they don't know shit, vice versa. They will know shit about a killing curse. Prolly they'll LOL when a wand is pointed at them. First time NC is seem porting around, the wizards will figure out what he can do, and for Storm, Iceman, etc; Thing is, they all have only one power, while a wizard has so many it is ridiculous. The wizards will figure out the marvel team far before the marvel team figures out the wizards.

First time they see NC porting around, they won't be conscious to tell anyone.

No ones denying that mutants will go down. NC won't know that the deathspell will mean the end of him, that doesn't mean he's going to hang around to find out what happens when the flash of light hits him.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

And the Marauders map, pinpointing each marvel team member at all times, is a great weapon, deny it all you want, you know it's true.

No its not that great of a weapon because they don't know who can do what. And they'll be so many names on that map, you couldn't see shit on it. And also, only Harry and the few with him will have access to the information, not that it actually helps.

Phoenix mindf*cks for the solo. 😆
Galactus f*cks the planet for the solo. 😆
Surfer beats the sh*t out of everyone for the solo. 😆

But seriously, even without Xavier, the Marvel team still has some really f'ing hardhitters. Nightcrawler and Kitty could potentially solo. Fantastic Four would be a formidable team, with Sue as protection and Jonny as offence and Hulk would kick some ass untill he meets some of the big-hitters. Ironmans suit would block most spells, but I think its been gimped. Does Spawn count as Marvel, becuase he'd do some f'ed up sh*t. Punisher would take out loads since guns>wands and he actually knows war like this. Ghost Rider might go in the immortal pile, but if not he'd still beat some ass. Dr Doom would pwn tonnes with lightning blasts.

Also, accio'ing most of the Marvel team would be a good way to commit suicide, it would go like, 'Accio Jean Grey!' 'Here she comes!' gets dissintergrated, only with loads of differnt people.

And, Nightcrawler actually jumps into another dimension when he jumps, so I'm pretty sure he could get away from the spell.

Originally posted by Placidity
Yup, they are going to fly through tornadoes and lightning towards what exactly? They don't even know theres someone there? And I said, she could do it from anywhere, you kinda left out that part huh.

No I didn't actually, maybe because they don't outnumber them. Its Wizards @ Hogwarts vs Marvel Universe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_Marvel_Comics

Whats your guesstimate on how many Marvel combatants are in this battle? And remember, DDM said only certain characters are allowed. No uber power characters.

First time they see NC porting around, they won't be conscious to tell anyone.

No ones denying that mutants will go down. NC won't know that the deathspell will mean the end of him, that doesn't mean he's going to hang around to find out what happens when the flash of light hits him.

No its not that great of a weapon because they don't know who can do what. And they'll be so many names on that map, you couldn't see shit on it. And also, only Harry and the few with him will have access to the information, not that it actually helps.

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/hogwarts/castle/hogwarts_inside.html

It's not like all combatants are gonna be huddled on one floor, or even in one room.

Not to mention the grounds:

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/hogwarts/castle/hogwarts_outside.html

And the forbidden forest:

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/hogwarts/castle/forest.html

As far as I know, DDM never limited the fight to inside the castle. Thats just stupid.

So yes, it is quite the weapon.