Wizards Vs. Marvel (corrected version)

Originally posted by Nephthys
Phoenix mindf*cks for the solo. 😆
Galactus f*cks the planet for the solo. 😆
Surfer beats the sh*t out of everyone for the solo. 😆

But seriously, even without Xavier, the Marvel team still has some really f'ing hardhitters. Nightcrawler and Kitty could potentially solo.

Fantastic Four would be a formidable team, with Sue as protection and Jonny as offence and Hulk would kick some ass untill he meets some of the big-hitters.

Ironmans suit would block most spells, but I think its been gimped. Does Spawn count as Marvel, becuase he'd do some f'ed up sh*t. Punisher would take out loads since guns>wands and he actually knows war like this. Ghost Rider might go in the immortal pile, but if not he'd still beat some ass. Dr Doom would pwn tonnes with lightning blasts.

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Full_Body-Bind_Curse

Also, accio'ing most of the Marvel team would be a good way to commit suicide, it would go like, 'Accio Jean Grey!' 'Here she comes!' gets dissintergrated, only with loads of differnt people.

And, Nightcrawler actually jumps into another dimension when he jumps, so I'm pretty sure he could get away from the spell.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

As far as I know, DDM never limited the fight to inside the castle. Thats just stupid.

So yes, it is quite the weapon.

I would rather prefer it that way.

When the battle begins

- Storm summons her shizzle from far away - location unknown to Wizards.

- Lots of people can utterly destroy the entire castle, killing whoever is in it. Lets assume not much, cause if they can fight outside thats where they're going to be.

- Dark Phoenix telekinetically freezes all enemies in place, and then disintegrates them.

- Cyclops removes his visor

- Deadpool keeps teleporting, unleashing his Optic Blast everywhere.

- Pyro turns on the heat

- Dr Doom unleashes his lightning

- Human Torch does a Super Nova

- Susan Storm creates a force field for her team.

- They just let the likes of Abomination, Hulk, Juggernaut, The Thing, Colossus run wild, taking out numerous wizards. Obviously he will attract alot of attention and one of the big boys will take him out, but they would've done his fair share of damage.

- The Punisher unloads whatever guns and explosives he has.

- Blade does whatever he can, probably not much.

- Spiderman, Venom and Green Goblin do some damage. With their agility, they will avoid being hit for awhile.

- Nightcrawler TP's around owning it up.

- Kitty goes underground and comes up behind the Wizards for backstabs so to speak.

- Sandman and the Absorbing Man will just wreak havoc of all sorts.

- Speedters: Callisto, Quicksilver, Kirigi (Elektra) run around punching people's lights out, or in Kirigi's case, slicing their heads off.

- Tattoo (Elektra) stays in the backlines and summons shit loads of beasts, vastly multiplying their numbers.

- Elektra ressurects dead allies.

- Magneto's Brotherhood, too many to list, will trade kills with the wizards.

- Arclight stays back and targets the wizard's wands.

- Ghost Rider wtfpwns most of the Wizards. Maybe the top dudes will be able to contend with him.

- Silver Surfer wtfpwns everyone, no exceptions.

- Ironman flies at supersonic speeds while launching attacks at the wizards. Don't even think about an aerial battle with him. Not that that would happen, because they all get struck by lightning or sucked into a tornado.

Thats all I can think of so far. Most of the characters I've listed can easily take out hundreds of wizards at a time.

Ha Ha, nice list!

Pay attention to the conditions, combatants like this are not allowed. Nice try though. Phoenix, well, DDM needs to decide, Phoenix or Jean Grey. Having them both is like having Anakin Skywalker AND Darth Vader.

It was a joke. 😐

And Phoenix is allowed. AND Surfer is far from immortal, so I don't know if he counts.

Afraid not. NC will be on the marauders map at all times. So will Kitty. Accio them. Death spell them. It's quite simple, really.

If they Accio either one, they either teleport of go intangable, either would stop the Accio, remove the from the Map, and dodge a death spell.

Plus only harry has the map and he can't do a death spell. Heck, going by just movie feats, only around 4-7 death eater can do it. And before you claim it's standard, remember what fake-Moody said, only powerful wizards can do it.

Sue would serve as nothing more than defense, she didnt display any real fighting skills. But all it takes is one death spell to nuke her. Johnny? Arresto Momentum or Accio, death spell.

Hows a death spell gonna get past her field? And she showed offensive capablities with her field, enough to defeat most wizards. And if you had actually read the post I said they would be good as a team. Obviously they will get taken out alone, but as a team, with Sues defence and the rest offence, they ARE a force to be reckoned with.

Plus Johnny can solo the field by going Nova, plus he moves too fast to be hit with a spell.

Voldemort will mind rape Hulk and turn him on the marvel team. Legilimency owns Hulk, he is, as I said, a big ass retard.

'Hulk would kick some ass untill he meets some of the big-hitters.'

Ironman? Impedimenta, reducto the suit,

Neither of those things are even remotely powerful enough to destroy Starks suit. Reducto couldn't even burn through a hedge😬

No Spawn, even if he was marvel, again, opening thread allows only certain combatants. Ghost Rider falls under this category also, but it's DDM's call, this is why I implored that he post a list of allowed combatants. Dr. Doom? I havent seen the movie in a while, refresh me on his powers?

Fine on Spawn and whatever on GR. Doom was incredibly powerful in the movies, having enough fire-power to burn through a mans chest. But of course you'll argue that lightning isn't as fast as arm and spell speed OR apparition won't you 😉

Yeah, because the wizards will wait until the victim is upon them to death spell them roll eyes (sarcastic)

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That might well be the stupidest thing you've said yet.

Not in the movies he doesnt. It wasnt implied or shown. So, according to the movies, NC will be on the marauders map at all times.

Yeah it was. That's why whenever he teleports theres a puff of smoke, it comes from the dimension he 'ports to.

Nice attempt DDM, but did you actually think the HP fannies would follow the shown limits of the HP characters and spells this time around? DP is like Xavier, greater even, since she overwhelmed him mentally, having her is just spite.

I agree that NC could [potentially] solo this, given he does what he did in the White House scene, they would't know was was hitting them, all they'd see was a dark cloud and yet another wizards goes flying into a wall. They couldnt target him with a spell, by the time the spell was cast, he'd be somewhere else.

Originally posted by Placidity
I would rather prefer it that way.

When the battle begins

- Storm summons her shizzle from far away - location unknown to Wizards.

- Lots of people can utterly destroy the entire castle, killing whoever is in it. Lets assume not much, cause if they can fight outside thats where they're going to be.

- Dark Phoenix telekinetically freezes all enemies in place, and then disintegrates them.

- Cyclops removes his visor

- Deadpool keeps teleporting, unleashing his Optic Blast everywhere.

- Pyro turns on the heat

- Dr Doom unleashes his lightning

- Human Torch does a Super Nova

- Susan Storm creates a force field for her team.

- They just let the likes of Abomination, Hulk, Juggernaut, The Thing, Colossus run wild, taking out numerous wizards. Obviously he will attract alot of attention and one of the big boys will take him out, but they would've done his fair share of damage.

- The Punisher unloads whatever guns and explosives he has.

- Blade does whatever he can, probably not much.

- Spiderman, Venom and Green Goblin do some damage. With their agility, they will avoid being hit for awhile.

- Nightcrawler TP's around owning it up.

- Kitty goes underground and comes up behind the Wizards for backstabs so to speak.

- Sandman and the Absorbing Man will just wreak havoc of all sorts.

- Speedters: Callisto, Quicksilver, Kirigi (Elektra) run around punching people's lights out, or in Kirigi's case, slicing their heads off.

- Tattoo (Elektra) stays in the backlines and summons shit loads of beasts, vastly multiplying their numbers.

- Elektra ressurects dead allies.

- Magneto's Brotherhood, too many to list, will trade kills with the wizards.

- Arclight stays back and targets the wizard's wands.

- Ghost Rider wtfpwns most of the Wizards. Maybe the top dudes will be able to contend with him.

- Silver Surfer wtfpwns everyone, no exceptions.

- Ironman flies at supersonic speeds while launching attacks at the wizards. Don't even think about an aerial battle with him. Not that that would happen, because they all get struck by lightning or sucked into a tornado.

Thats all I can think of so far. Most of the characters I've listed can easily take out hundreds of wizards at a time.

^ Um, you said the fight is not limited to the Castle. Why wouldn't they destroy it if all the Wizards are inside.

I guess you'd probably change your mind later, because the map only works in the Castle.

Also, lol, Deathspell Dark Phoenix? Yea she is that fast, but assuming she isn't, how slow do you think she is? Once she begins doing her shit, the Wizards won't even know which mutant is doing it. If no one stops her immediately, they are all dead.

What s the stupid obsession with Potter's map? Nightcrawler would just appear as popping dots on his map that would stay for less than a second.

How is that going to help Potter or his team from NC, especially since they're also dealing with the other mutants too?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Franklin Richards Dr. Strange. Mandarin.

These characters are not in any films. At least, Dr. Strange is in the Marvel animated film. Franklin Richards, to my knowledge, has never been in any movie.

Can anyone tell me why I shouldn't close this, since this is, more or less, just a duplicate thread?

IMHO you should close both imped. The other one is never gonna end, do to constant argument that will never be settled. And if this one includes EVERY marvel character, that means this includes too many things to keep track of.

So by all Marvel characters are we accepting animated movies too?

Originally posted by Impediment
These characters are not in any films. At least, Dr. Strange is in the Marvel animated film. Franklin Richards, to my knowledge, has never been in any movie.

Can anyone tell me why I shouldn't close this, since this is, more or less, just a duplicate thread?

The one difference I can see is that he said Marvel and not just mutants so that opens the door for the likes of Iron Man, Hulk, Spider-Man, Surfer etc. Hell Surfer alone would solo this.

Originally posted by Impediment

Can anyone tell me why I shouldn't close this, since this is, more or less, just a duplicate thread?

It's already turned just like the other thread, the HP fanboy refuses to accept the one-screen abilities on some mutants who would prove too much for any wizard while adding to the wizards with shit not seen on screen.

If animated movies are allowed too then Thor or Loki solo.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Whats your guesstimate on how many Marvel combatants are in this battle? And remember, DDM said only certain characters are allowed. No uber power characters.

This is correct. Bullshit like galactus is not allowed. And, i think the wizards have a really good chance against silver surfer.

And DP was not shown or even mentioned as being able to mind **** anybody. Only Xavier. Jean could barely use Cerebro, which would be a requirement to mind ****.

Originally posted by dadudemon
This is correct. Bullshit like galactus is not allowed. And, i think the wizards have a really good chance against silver surfer.

And DP was not shown or even mentioned as being able to mind **** anybody. Only Xavier. Jean could barely use Cerebro, which would be a requirement to mind ****.

DP and Jean are very different in power, as even Xavier said he used mental shielding to limit her powers when she was a child.

When she finally DP'd out, she was far stronger than him, as even the guy who's able to affect the minds probably thousands and billions with Cerebro, couldn't resist her at full power.

Also of note, Magneto even with his protective helmet was scared of her powers.

But going by movie feats, she doesn't mind-rape the masses, she turns them into ash, instantly. That's still more than enough to wreck havoc on Hogworths, let alone some other mutants.

Originally posted by Impediment
These characters are not in any films. At least, Dr. Strange is in the Marvel animated film. Franklin Richards, to my knowledge, has never been in any movie.

Franklin Richards was used to setup the scenario just to make this a tad more believable.. Mandarin and Dr. Strange are in movies...so I excluded them to keep things from being on sided.

Originally posted by Impediment
Can anyone tell me why I shouldn't close this, since this is, more or less, just a duplicate thread?

Because the other thread allowed to much stupidity. I reduced the number of characters allowed from Marvel and allowed only the HP characters who used specific items, to use them. I eliminated the fanboy argument that the HP people wouldn't work together. Basically, I made a new thread, new parameters, with a different set up rules. It is similar to the other thread, but not a duplicate. Instead of arguing over Xavier and Voldy, which the other thread was, this thread will focus on many different mutant abilities and Wizards and how each will overcome that. I eliminated the uber powerful characters, for a reason. None of the wizarding side has any uber powerful characters. Ronald Weasley vs. Voldy is hardly the difference between Iceman and Thor. Thor and any immortal should be eliminated, obviously.

Originally posted by Robtard
DP and Jean are very different in power, as even Xavier said he used mental shielding to limit her powers when she was a child.

When she finally DP'd out, she was far stronger than him, as even the guy who's able to affect the minds probably thousands and billions with Cerebro, couldn't resist her at full power.

Also of note, Magneto even with his protective helmet was scared of her powers.

But going by movie feats, she doesn't mind-rape the masses, she turns them into ash, instantly. That's still more than enough to wreck havoc on Hogworths, let alone some other mutants.

There is a difference. But the difference is she becomes much stronger and gets the ash making ability. Her telepathic abilities were barely stronger than Xavier's. Here's why. He was still able to locate her and barely read her thoughts. When DP we sitting in that chair, she was becoming pissed as hell because Xavier was still able to get into her mind and she couldn't stop it. So it became a battle of telepathic abilities until she wiped him out in rage. DP's telepathic abilities are barely stronger than Xavier's. If we go the comics for a further explanation, she would be really damn close in ability to him. When people are even, reading thoughts becomes difficult. When one is stronger, usually the weaker cannot read thoughts. Since she sucked it up on Cerebro, and she never used Cerebro after becoming DP, and she never mind raped anyone as DP, she does not have that ability. Remember, we can only go by movies feats.

And Magneto was scared because she could tear him apart with her fire ash ability and probably with her TK as well.

But, in order for her to do that, she would lay waste to her buddies, too.
Remember, they are all on the same team. There is none of this bad blood bullshit on either side.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Franklin Richards was used to setup the scenario just to make this a tad more believable.. Mandarin and Dr. Strange are in movies...so I excluded them to keep things from being on sided.

Because the other thread allowed to much stupidity. I reduced the number of characters allowed from Marvel and allowed only the HP characters who used specific items, to use them. I eliminated the fanboy argument that the HP people wouldn't work together. Basically, I made a new thread, new parameters, with a different set up rules. It is similar to the other thread, but not a duplicate. Instead of arguing over Xavier and Voldy, which the other thread was, this thread will focus on many different mutant abilities and Wizards and how each will overcome that. I eliminated the uber powerful characters, for a reason. None of the wizarding side has any uber powerful characters. Ronald Weasley vs. Voldy is hardly the difference between Iceman and Thor. Thor and any immortal should be eliminated, obviously.

There is a difference. But the difference is she becomes much stronger and gets the ash making ability. Her telepathic abilities were barely stronger than Xavier's. Here's why. He was still able to locate her and barely read her thoughts. When DP we sitting in that chair, she was becoming pissed as hell because Xavier was still able to get into her mind and she couldn't stop it. So it became a battle of telepathic abilities until she wiped him out in rage. DP's telepathic abilities are barely stronger than Xavier's. If we go the comics for a further explanation, she would be really damn close in ability to him. When people are even, reading thoughts becomes difficult. When one is stronger, usually the weaker cannot read thoughts. Since she sucked it up on Cerebro, and she never used Cerebro after becoming DP, and she never mind raped anyone as DP, she does not have that ability. Remember, we can only go by movies feats.

And Magneto was scared because she could tear him apart with her fire ash ability and probably with her TK as well.

But, in order for her to do that, she would lay waste to her buddies, too.
Remember, they are all on the same team. There is none of this bad blood bullshit on either side.

Thor is only immortal by age means. He can die from physical punishment, magic of sufficient strength and energy based attacks. He can die, so I don't see why is would be eliminated.

Originally posted by dadudemon

But, in order for her to do that, she would lay waste to her buddies, too.
Remember, they are all on the same team. There is none of this bad blood bullshit on either side.

No, she can select who she ashes and doesn't, as seen in the film.

Originally posted by dadudemon
This is correct. Bullshit like galactus is not allowed. And, i think the wizards have a really good chance against silver surfer.

And DP was not shown or even mentioned as being able to mind **** anybody. Only Xavier. Jean could barely use Cerebro, which would be a requirement to mind ****.

Surfer is the fastest one here by miles. He would speedblitz and transmute through anything they use.

There is a difference. But the difference is she becomes much stronger and gets the ash making ability. Her telepathic abilities were barely stronger than Xavier's. Here's why. He was still able to locate her and barely read her thoughts. When DP we sitting in that chair, she was becoming pissed as hell because Xavier was still able to get into her mind and she couldn't stop it. So it became a battle of telepathic abilities until she wiped him out in rage. DP's telepathic abilities are barely stronger than Xavier's. If we go the comics for a further explanation, she would be really damn close in ability to him. When people are even, reading thoughts becomes difficult. When one is stronger, usually the weaker cannot read thoughts. Since she sucked it up on Cerebro, and she never used Cerebro after becoming DP, and she never mind raped anyone as DP, she does not have that ability. Remember, we can only go by movies feats.

She mindf*cked Xavier in X-2, stopping him from getting in her mind, repressing his and taking over his body. While holding back hundreds of tonnes of water, lifting the x-jet into the air AND fixing the damage done to it enough for it to fly.

So shes clearly stronger then him.