Dark Khan Versus Kain

Started by Cosmic Cube12 pages

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You should ask the narcissistic bandicoot. Just don't call him when he's brushing his teeth, hearing the phone ring will make his heart explode.
^Angel Dust? Man, you're fried. Lay off the PCP, dude.

You guys totally hijacked this thread with your nonsense.

Back on topic, now.

Kain is the regulator. Any objectors? (except for Q'Anilia)

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Websters dictionary defines "Awesome" as: Inspiring awe, admiration or wonder.

I'd not define Burning Thought as any of the three. There's not really much I'd define as awesome now that I think about it.

You would define me as awesome right?

Originally posted by NemeBro
You would define me as awesome right?
She's not online, and I think the Finnish have really high standards, so don't feel bad if she says no.

And Kratos isn't gay. I was just alluding to the fact that Spartans were pretty queer in antiquity. Please don't make me give you a tootsie pop.

Did you know that there are two thousand lakes in Finland!? WTF right!? Right!?

I would describe you as "ricockulous"

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I would describe you as "ricockulous"
Me or him?

Him, you're an act of God, sent to punish us.

Is that all?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Is that all?
your were God's only mistake

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Please don't make me give you a tootsie pop.

Haha, dangly parts.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Him, you're an act of God, sent to punish us.
your a bastardized child of cybernus the internet god

I take it you enjoyed your PM? :]

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I take it you enjoyed your PM? :]
so hows that job "cleaning" the elephant doing for you?

Kinky, you wouldn't believe the things you find in there.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Kinky, you wouldn't believe the things you find in there.
its like a brownish gold down there

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You cannot possibly mean that.

You don't care about BT at all? C'mon. I know his grammar, spelling, and punctuation could use some refining, but you've got to look past that and see the awesome BT beneath all the pseudo-English and brain-busting logical lapses. Are any of us without flaws? Surely a glimmer of the brilliance of his awesomeness has touched you, somehow. Think hard.* Deep down, can you say that you don't care about BT?

*(Edit: Damnit, that question mark didn't belong there. :looks at BT: )

I don't judge a person by his knowledge in a particular language, or how much work they put into their communication. I don't like Burning Thought because I find him disrespectful, hypocritical and ignorant.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
And back on topic, I think Kain is the regulator. And his moves are awesome. He's pretty darn powerful. Hard to argue that.

Let's see then how hard it is to argue:

Regulator

"The role of the Balance Guardians was a reglatory one; their magic influenced the regulation of the other magic in Nosgoth. We can identify three Balance Guardians, pictured above."
- 'Their magic influenced' not only gives out the implication that their role was an influencing one (Despite what's said about reglatory), but also that they aren't directly regulating anything.
- 'Influenced the regulation' clearly states that they are effecting the regulating, influencing it. It does NOT state that the guardian is the one doing the regulating.
- 'Other magic in Nosgoth' brings out the fact that not only is the influencing of the regulation in Nosgoth, but also only magic that exists in Nosgoth. To say that Kain can influence anything outside Nosgoth is the same as saying that Medivh can draw energy from Karazhan without being on Azeroth. It doesn't work. It's also a location-required factor, so doesn't apply to a neutral battleground.

To state that Kain is the regulator is to bring in the existential fallacy. To then claim that regulating means what it appears you and Burning Thought think it does brings in another existential fallacy. Combinding the two creates the propositional fallacy of affirming the consequent. Which makes the statement "Kain is a regulator" and "Regulating means complete control over limits" invalid statements. It's nothing but the conclusion of a speculation without true evidence to back it up.

Awesome moves

He has some interesting moves, but nothing that puts him in the league that Burning Thought struggle to keep him in. His shield says this:
"Invoking this spell cloaks me under a protective aegis. Whatever spell is cast at me will be reflected back at the caster, leaving me unharmed. It will only last for a short time, however, before leaving me vulnerable once more."

The tooltip informs us that "This spell created a magical shell around Kain. Until it wore off, he was protected against all enemy attacks, including all types of projectile", which brings another fallacy into play. Thanks to the quote by Kain and the words in the tooltip, we now have a no-limit fallacy. This pretty little fallacy exists to tell us that just because no limit has been set for the shield, doesn't mean it doesn't have one. Kain is speaking out of experience in that quote. Experience that is limited to his world and the enemies he has fought at that point. This is an argumentum ad ignorantiam (Aka Negative Proof fallacy) case, which is a logical fallacy in which it is claimed that a premise is true because it has not been proven false. Very similar to the no-limit fallacy, so both are applied to the case.

The writers of the tooltip is directing it at the existing enemy spells of Blood Omen and not at the fictional universe. For instance, Burning Thought claims that Repel Shield protects him from the Omega attack by our precious Dark Khan (Assuming he has it), but there's not a single implication that the shield can withstand a molecular level attack, because no such thing exists for Kain, and because it doesn't, he doesn't know better than to claim his shield indestructible because he hasn't yet been proven wrong.
The developers doesn't take other games and fictions in consideration when they write the tooltip, so their words only stretch as far as the strongest attack in Blood Omen.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
She's not online, and I think the Finnish have really high standards, so don't feel bad if she says no.

And Kratos isn't gay. I was just alluding to the fact that Spartans were pretty queer in antiquity. Please don't make me give you a tootsie pop.

Did you know that there are two thousand lakes in Finland!? WTF right!? Right!?

Two hundred thousand. 200.000.

Originally posted by NemeBro
You would define me as awesome right?

I would finland

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
She's not online, and I think the Finnish have really high standards, so don't feel bad if she says no.
I already knew the answer would be yes noob. 131

A carrot just told me that I could come here and talk to Mr. Cheechio about my theory on how Dane Cook and Howie Mandel are the same person.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Two hundred thousand. 200.000.

I would finland

WHAT THE SHIT!? (doesn't have the same ring as ****. There we go again)

TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND? Did I acknowledge that before? Because If I did, it's news to me. Finland is now 100 times more awesome.

You think this chump is awesome but you don't think BT is?

Maybe it's some sort of superior Finnish logic that my pseudo-(I love that prefix, if you haven't noticed by now)Finnish brain cannot process. BT is so awesome in my eyes. I can't understand why you don't think so. But you're Finnish so you can't be wrong... But BT is awesome... arghhh... This is so confusing.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I already knew the answer would be yes noob. 131
Are you Finnish too?

Why is the Meth head still here? Go steal a car radio, you junkie.

Double post. 🙁