Dark Khan Versus Kain

Dark Khan has entered Nozgoth and seeks to merge it with the newly joined MK/DCU. Kain, being one of the Balance Guardians, must put a stop to this nefarious plot.

Dark Khan has his standard strength, as well as the ability to RAGE , and Kain has his standard weapons and spells.

The battle takes place in an open meadow that's begun the fusion process, and his hovering fifty feet above the ground. Kain has only thirty minutes to prepare before he must confront Dark Khan (any longer and Nozgoth risks being fused completely). This cannot be a victory for Kain unless he can destroy Dark Khan, KO and BFR will not work. The same is not true for Dark Khan.

Can the ancient vampire defeat one of the most idoti...er...powerful beings in existence?

Mist > Rage

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Dark Khan has entered Nozgoth and seeks to merge it with the newly joined MK/DCU. Kain, being one of the Balance Guardians, must put a stop to this nefarious plot.

Dark Khan has his standard strength, as well as the ability to [B]RAGE , and Kain has his standard weapons and spells.

The battle takes place in an open meadow that's begun the fusion process, and his hovering fifty feet above the ground. Kain has only thirty minutes to prepare before he must confront Dark Khan (any longer and Nozgoth risks being fused completely). This cannot be a victory for Kain unless he can destroy Dark Khan, KO and BFR will not work. The same is not true for Dark Khan.

Can the ancient vampire defeat one of the most idoti...er...powerful beings in existence? [/B]

Ok so whats his durability like? can Kain smash him to bits because he has no real durability feats or can he rip out his soul? tear out his blood, steal his abilities and then destroy him with his own powers?

Kain will be literally immune to physical and magical powers throughout, will have his time powers up and running as well, then will prob slow Dark Khan by teleporting text to him, letting the time aura do its work, then use Incapaciate to freeze the fool solid, in a normal battle he would be defeated and Kain would have won but you say Kain has to destroy him? thus please answer my first questions.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Kain will be literally immune to physical and magical powers throughout

Elaborate please.

repel shield backed up by Kains regulation means it would be invulerable throughout this fight to magic and physical forces.

A no-limit fallacy then.

hm a no limit, true, but not a fallacy no...

Originally posted by Burning thought
hm a no limit, true, but not a fallacy no...

So basically you're saying Illidan can survive a supernova because he's immune to fire and heat?

no, but his immunity has a level, a level that has to be shown, Kains shield protects him against those two aspects, it would be a no limits fallacy if I simply claimed him invicible because of the shield, but ime not, ime claiming him invicible because he has his shield which protects against those two aspects AND his magic regulation which would give it an infinite degree, thus, only a power beyond infnity can break it.

Damn it, I knew I forgot to mention something. The merging of the universes causes fluctuations in the strength of Nozgoth's natural state. Kain's abilities, attributes, etc. are weakened overall. So no infinite stuff going on.

No, this isn't me trying to make Kain weaker, this is canon to Dark Khan's game plot, and since that's the scenario I'm using that's what's going to be happening. Stupid? You bet your ass, but that's the way it goes.

Originally posted by Burning thought
no, but his immunity has a level, a level that has to be shown, Kains shield protects him against those two aspects, it would be a no limits fallacy if I simply claimed him invicible because of the shield, but ime not, ime claiming him invicible because he has his shield which protects against those two aspects AND his magic regulation which would give it an infinite degree, thus, only a power beyond infnity can break it.

Illidan has shown immunity to heat and fire. So by your logic, he can survive a supernova, because he's shown no limit. He has no set level.

What has Kain done that makes you certain that his ability is a no-limit but not a no-limit fallacy?

You would have to influence Kains status as the balance guardian, infnite regulation is simply something they can do, theres no weakened version, or higher. Its like breathing....it happens with merely an influence. Has his effect on fluctuations ever changed magical abilities and regulations?

although it does not really matter, its not important

Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
Illidan has shown immunity to heat and fire. So by your logic, he can survive a supernova, because he's shown no limit. He has no set level.

What has Kain done that makes you certain that his ability is a no-limit but not a no-limit fallacy?

You did not read my post, nor even answer it, you simply repeated what you said before, so ill repeat again.

Illidan needs to show a degree of heat, ime not talking about whats been shown as a limit do I? no....

Kains energy would be infnite in the shield, thus, his shield is infnite, thus, he would be immune

Xanatos however does not seem to want this regulation in the fight, it would wipe Dark Khan with ease, so Kain will have to go down to the level of soul and blood manip as well as time.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Xanatos however does not seem to want this regulation in the fight, it would wipe Dark Khan with ease, so Kain will have to go down to the level of soul and blood manip as well as time.

😆 It's got nothing to do with thinking DK can't handle it, BT, it was merely an oversight of mine given the scenario I had placed. Kain still has quite a large reserve of magical potential, I'm sure, but as was shown during the events of MK vs DCU, the merging of universes causes imbalances in both which weaken some characters and strengthen others.

Don't worry, BT, I'm sure you'll have Kain find a way around the massive shitpile...er...I mean powerhouse, that is Dark Khan. 😉

Originally posted by Burning thought
You did not read my post, nor even answer it, you simply repeated what you said before, so ill repeat again.

[b]Illidan needs to show a degree of heat, ime not talking about whats been shown as a limit do I? no....

Kains energy would be infnite in the shield, thus, his shield is infnite, thus, he would be immune

Xanatos however does not seem to want this regulation in the fight, it would wipe Dark Khan with ease, so Kain will have to go down to the level of soul and blood manip as well as time. [/B]

Illidan draws his powers from the Twisting Nether, which is infinite.

Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
Illidan draws his powers from the Twisting Nether, which is infinite.

So? that doesnt mean he draws all of the power, unfortunatley he is not the regulator of such power, unlike Kain is the regulator of magic in general. Obvioulsy if he was the regulator of the magic of the twisting Nether, then he would be.

Although your talking nonsense because ime sure its never said all of Illidans resistances come from the twisting Nether or necesserily powers he uses it with.

Originally posted by Burning thought
So? that doesnt mean he draws all of the power, unfortunatley he is not the regulator of such power, unlike Kain is the regulator of magic in general. Obvioulsy if he was the regulator of the magic of the twisting Nether, then he would be.

Although your talking nonsense because ime sure its never said all of Illidans resistances come from the twisting Nether or necesserily powers he uses it with.

Kain isn't the regulator either. Nosgoth is its own regulator.

All power of all characters on all of Azeroth comes from the Twisting Nether. Every slight pinch of magic comes from there. Anything unnatural for each character is a concequence of their link to the Twisting Nether.

Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
Kain isn't the regulator either. Nosgoth is its own regulator.

All power of all characters on all of Azeroth comes from the Twisting Nether. Every slight pinch of magic comes from there. Anything unnatural for each character is a concequence of their link to the Twisting Nether.

No, Kain is the regulator, it states quite clearly, through his magics influence, magic is regulated, so his primary magic is already powerful enough/high level enough to regulate magic itself.

So? it comes from the twisting nether but they have to draw it themselves, how much they can draw is what makes their spells.

K, I'm gonna dispel this crap right now. 1. Kain's the regulator of magic in Nosgoth, not his entire universe, and if he were, regulation of one universe's magic =/= regulation of every universe's magic. Kain's universe doesn't seem to have an infinite supply of anything. No more no-limits fallacies.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
K, I'm gonna dispel this crap right now. 1. Kain's the regulator of magic in Nosgoth, not his entire universe, and if he were, regulation of one universe's magic =/= regulation of every universe's magic. Kain's universe doesn't seem to have an infinite supply of anything. No more no-limits fallacies.

He's not the regulator, that's the problem.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
K, I'm gonna dispel this crap right now. 1. Kain's the regulator of magic in Nosgoth, not his entire universe, and if he were, regulation of one universe's magic =/= regulation of every universe's magic. Kain's universe doesn't seem to have an infinite supply of anything. No more no-limits fallacies.

No his ROLE is regulator of magic in Nosgoth, thats what the quote says, the actual power still remains regulation of magic in general, simply sitting there and claiming "zomg well its not magic from another universe!" then we could comit the same fallacy for many characters and say they cannot use any of their powers because the universe and magic they use in their own universes or the sources of those magics do not excist in a non outlined space of a debate.