Palpatine vs. Mace

Started by Placidity9 pages
Originally posted by Robtard
Palp's is the strongest Sith, yet Mace (not the strongest Jedi) defeated him? Something seems amiss (aka retarded) here.

Thats not even an argument. Where is this rule that only the strongest Jedi can beat the strongest Sith?

Yoda and Mace have always been hailed as the greatest swordsmen, perhaps of all time.

Palpatine, however, does not have this reputation. Him being described as the most powerful Sith lord comes from his mastery over the force.

And going just by the films, it seems his master Darh Plagueis could manipulate the force in ways he couldn't dream of.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Anakin didn't use his anger a small bit. He used it a lot. He used dark side force power to over power Dooku.

Force Rage. Although the film didn't depict this very well.

Originally posted by Placidity
Thats not even an argument. Where is this rule that only the strongest Jedi can beat the strongest Sith?

Yoda and Mace have always been hailed as the greatest swordsmen, perhaps of all time.

Palpatine, however, does not have this reputation. Him being described as the most powerful Sith lord comes from his mastery over the force.

And going just by the films, it seems his master Darh Plagueis could manipulate the force in ways he couldn't dream of.


Exactly, its entirley possible for mace to have truly beaten him.

Originally posted by Placidity
Thats not even an argument. Where is this rule that only the strongest Jedi can beat the strongest Sith?

Yoda and Mace have always been hailed as the greatest swordsmen, perhaps of all time.

Palpatine, however, does not have this reputation. Him being described as the most powerful Sith lord comes from his mastery over the force.

And going just by the films, it seems his master Darh Plagueis could manipulate the force in ways he couldn't dream of.

First of all, calm down, it's just Star Wars.

And, Nah.

Originally posted by Robtard
First of all, calm down, it's just Star Wars.

And, Nah.


Nah IS one hell of an argument.

Originally posted by omgchos
Nah IS one hell of an argument.

I didn't feel like re-hashing or copy/pasting, as it's been covered.

You also need to calm down, Mr. I-Am-Always-****ing-Combative-About-Everything.

Originally posted by Robtard
I didn't feel like re-hashing or copy/pasting, as it's been covered.

You also need to calm down, Mr. I-Am-Always-****ing-Combative-About-Everything.


Hey your the one being hostile. And btw Nah doesn't stand for " i have already adressed your argument", say that next timelaughcry

Nah, I'm not. Nah.

See what i mean😄

Originally posted by dadudemon
Anakin didn't use his anger a small bit. He used it a lot. He used dark side force power to over power Dooku.
But the Jedi in him still had control, he hadn't gone Sith yet.

Originally posted by Placidity
Mace has always been regarded as one of the most powerful Jedi period. Count Dooku is a nobody in the scheme of things.
If you're limiting analysis to the movies, this is false. Holding his own against Yoda in AotC after defeating Obi-Wan and Anakin - men less than half and a quarter his age, respectively - back to back certainly makes him somebody.

If you're allowing for inclusion of EU material... this is even more false.

Originally posted by Eminence
If you're limiting analysis to the movies, this is false. Holding his own against Yoda in AotC after defeating Obi-Wan and Anakin - men less than half and a quarter his age, respectively - back to back certainly makes him somebody.

If you're allowing for inclusion of EU material... this is even more false.

I think he means Palpy viewed him that way, like totally expendable.

Originally posted by Robtard
First of all, calm down, it's just Star Wars.

And, Nah.

HOW DARE YOU CALL IT "just Star Wars."!!!! 😠 😠 😠

I'm 99% joking. 1% of me was saddened by your relegation. 🙁

Originally posted by omgchos
See what i mean😄

YouTube video

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Anakin was the one coming forward, Obi Wan was retreating, yes. "A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack." Plus Anakin WAS like a brother to him.

Excatly and look how quick to rush in on the attck Anakin was even in AOTC.......More eveidence of his slipping to the Darkside being a gradual thing.

Originally posted by dadudemon
ZOMG! Vaapad is amiss!

Indeed. One cannot wear the EU pants at the movie table..

Vaapad is never referenced in the movie.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Indeed. One cannot wear the EU pants at the movie table..

Vaapad is never referenced in the movie.

Actually it is.

Dun ask.

Actually its not.

Don't worry. I wont. 😛

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Excatly and look how quick to rush in on the attck Anakin was even in AOTC.......More eveidence of his slipping to the Darkside being a gradual thing.
Anakin was headstrong in AOTC, not Sith. Not even close.

So was it in the Jedi spirit of compassion and love that he murdered every man, [i]woman AND child in that Tusken camp...?[/i] 🙂

And which was it that caused Anakin's first dose of force lightning..?

a) Anakin hanging back with Obiwan, who knew how to deal with Force lightning, and patiently waiting to joint strike Dooku.

b) Gammorean guard snot

c) An emotionally destablised vengeful darksidey Anakin angrily rushing in alone to confront Dooku without covering his own ass, and believing his own hype and getting lightningpwned for it..