Palpatine vs. Mace

He didn't fully cross over and become Sith until he killed Windu, this is what I am saying.

Yea just being pissed off doesn't necessarily mean he has gone over to the dark side.

As Dooku said, he had all that anger, fear and other bullcrap but he didn't use them.

But I would definitely agree it leads to the dark side.

Also I think Dark side/dark force user =/= Sith

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
He didn't fully cross over and become Sith until he killed Windu, this is what I am saying.

This is where I think we can see how differently our perceptions of SW are.

I say he never 'totally crossed over' til Padme was dead.
(And EVEN THEN, you would have to dismiss the whole "emporer never having driven the good from him, Luke telling him simply to go of his hate" etc in ROTJ)
Hence all the girly crying and snivelling overlooking the mustafar complex.

You see Dooku weep?

You see the Emporer shed a tear at a daytime soap ever...?

Nah.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth

You see Dooku weep?

You see the Emporer shed a tear at a daytime soap ever...?

Nah.

Yea, Palpy cries himself to bed every night.

😛

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
This is where I think we can see how differently our perceptions of SW are.

I say he never 'totally crossed over' til Padme was dead.
(And EVEN THEN, you would have to dismiss the whole "emporer never having driven the good from him, Luke telling him simply to go of his hate" etc in ROTJ)
Hence all the girly crying and snivelling overlooking the mustafar complex.

You see Dooku weep?

You see the Emporer shed a tear at a daytime soap ever...?

Nah.

You build a solid case for Anakin/Vader never being full Sith, he was more the margarine or diet-cola of Sith, it would seem.

I believe it was your fellow Englishmen Robert Smith who once said "Siths don't cry"; this is a little known fact though.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
This is where I think we can see how differently our perceptions of SW are.

I say he never 'totally crossed over' til Padme was dead.
(And EVEN THEN, you would have to dismiss the whole "emporer never having driven the good from him, Luke telling him simply to go of his hate" etc in ROTJ)
Hence all the girly crying and snivelling overlooking the mustafar complex.

You see Dooku weep?

You see the Emporer shed a tear at a daytime soap ever...?

Nah.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I know for a fact that Palpy weeps every time Urkel is on TV.

I know he weeps everytime you try to make a joke that falls flat on its ass.

Originally posted by jaden101
I know he weeps everytime you try to make a joke that falls flat on its ass.

Originally posted by jaden101
I know he weeps everytime you try to make a joke that falls flat on its ass.

Says the man with the shit eating smile.

Originally posted by Robtard
You build a solid case for Anakin/Vader never being full Sith, he was more the margarine or diet-cola of Sith, it would seem.

I believe it was your fellow Englishmen Robert Smith who once said "Siths don't cry"; this is a little known fact though.

Thank you. Quasi Sith lolz

I still stand by my "Anakin being incredibly powerful-moreso when he giiiiiiivvvvvvvvvvvvvves himsellllllllllllllllllfffffffffffffff to the darrksiiiiiide" statements, but maintain that he didnt go full post-op sith to the extent that he would have maybe been even darker than Palpatine, such was Anakin's Jedi midithingysemen count.

Exactly, have to ask yourself, would say Darth Maul have cried like a little ***** if someone told him "hey, your little girlfriend is dead", me thinks he wouldn't, but responded with "Meh, whateva, whateva."

Exactly.

It is as unlikely as Dooku lightsabering up that room of kids on Palp's orders and seeing the merest smidgen of regret or pity on the Count's blood splattered face..

Just not gonna happen.

No crying "I killed them" droplets of eyepiss all over Padme's-would-soon-be-dead-assed shoulder.

Not for Christopher Lee.

Nope.

So it's settled, Anakin/Vader ever went full Sith. /end fact

Originally posted by Robtard
So it's settled, Anakin/Vader ever went full Sith. /end fact

Agreed. There was still "good" light side points left in him. Yes, that's an RPG reference. But it's the best way I can describe it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Says the man with the shit eating smile.

It's a lie...I never smile.

Neville bloody Bartos..!! 😛

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Neville bloody Bartos..!! 😛

I'm just a bloody normal bloke. A normal bloke who likes a bit of torture.

And if you think I look like chopper you should see my wee brother.

Originally posted by jaden101
I'm just a bloody normal bloke. A normal bloke who likes a bit of torture.

😮‍💨