Originally posted by Robtard
Dude, Palp was spinning about and countering both Fishboy's and Mace's attacks, if Mace is supposed to be the un-beating sabre duelist, he could have done it there or before.Add it all up what is shown, Palp was in control the whole time.
"Exactamundo" as Mace's hairier double would say a long time later in a galaxy far, far, away from that one. (L.A to be exact)
Originally posted by Robtard
If Mace is such the badass where is sabre skills can't be measured or compared against the others, he could have killed Palps easy when it was 4 on 1. Stands to reason.
Logical fallacy due to ignorance.
Mace is as strong as the person projecting onto him. Vaapad. 🙂
Also, there was the element of suprise on Palps side. Palps killed those others to show how strong he was, not to show how weak Mace was due to Palps being stronger. Edit- (And before you think I'm talking about Palps personality, I'm not. I'm referring to the "writer's" intent with the character, not the character's intent.)
There's also the fact that Palps clouds the force making it diffiuclt to use the Jedi Precog very well... Example: Order 66.
You must remember that Palps was the strongest Sith in history as stated by GL. I'm sure you'd like to use that quote but not the other.
So, why would GL, AFTER the fact, say that Mace won so that it would console Samuel when Samuel made the statement BEFORE the film? Don't you think Samuel would have voiced his opinion upon reading the script....IF that was even a big deal to begin with and not a joke...which it was.
Originally posted by Robtard
Na, what I said.-Before Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith began production, George Lucas was approached by Samuel L. Jackson who, knowing that Mace Windu was to die in the film, insisted that his character not die "like some punk". While promoting the movie on Conan O'Brien, he revealed his request to Conan, who joked that perhaps Mace would meet his demise by slipping on some soap in the shower.-
Cool...but that doesn't do anything for you. It is still an illogical reach on your part.
And, yes, it's utterly retarded to think Mace didn't beat Palps.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Anakin was still Jedi as he pwned Dooku.Obi Wan rose to the occasion, the fate of the galaxy and Jedi were at stake. Anakins mistake at the end is irrevelant, Obi Wan matched him throughout the battle.
No he overcame Dooku by tapping into the darkside/anger at Dooku's goading's behest at first, beating him and then finally giving Dooku that twin-lightsabred very-close-shave with Nigel "do it!" Palpatine's ultimate provokation.
His mistakes all the way through due to being consumed by anger and hatred, and Obiwan being a jammy, spawney, lucky bastard throughout combined made the scenario feasible.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
No he overcame Dooku by tapping into the darkside/anger.His mistakes all the way through due to being consumed by anger and hatred, and Obiwan being a jammy, spawney, lucky bastard throughout combined made the scenario feasible.
How do you figure that? Anakin was faster and stronger, and more powerful in round two. Once Obi Wan was out of the way, Anakin pwned Dooku in every possible way. The fact that he hesitated and said "I shouldn't, it's not the Jedi way" proves he was still Jedi.
Still, Obi Wan matched him move for move from the get go.
Yes. Because Anakin was getting wound up by that "Your anger makes you powerful but you dont use it" stuff among Dooku's many taunts..
Well...He clearly used it to smash seven shades of shit out of Dooku.
But he was torn still. He had been fluctuating back and forth since AOTC on the dark/light ROTS is when he finally went full sithtard.
But Ankin was largely the one coming forward.
It struck me as a bull (Anakin)vs a very lucky McClane-esque matador (Obiwan).
Originally posted by Sadako of Girthhaermm Sithtard haermm
Yes. Because Anakin was getting wound up by that "Your anger makes you powerful but you dont use it" stuff among Dooku's many taunts..Well...He clearly used it to smash seven shades of shit out of Dooku.
But he was torn still. He had been fluctuating back and forth since AOTC on the dark/light ROTS is when he finally went full sithtard.
Anakin wasnt wound up. Dooku taunted Anakin and it made Anakin that much more determined to beat him. Sure, he might have used his anger a small bit, but he was still in control of his actions, he still realized that Jedi do not kill in that fashion, it was only when Palpy urged him to that he did it.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthAnakin was the one coming forward, Obi Wan was retreating, yes. "A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack." Plus Anakin WAS like a brother to him.But Ankin was largely the one coming forward.
It struck me as a bull (Anakin)vs a very lucky McClane-esque matador (Obiwan).
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
haermm Sithtard haermmAnakin wasnt wound up. Dooku taunted Anakin and it made Anakin that much more determined to beat him. Sure, he might have used his anger a small bit, but he was still in control of his actions, he still realized that Jedi do not kill in that fashion, it was only when Palpy urged him to that he did it.
Anakin didn't use his anger a small bit. He used it a lot. He used dark side force power to over power Dooku.