Darkseid/Thanos vs WW Hulk/Rulk [h2h]

Originally posted by carver9
Having better h2h skills is debatable, even being faster is debatable but its common knowledge that wwh is stronger.

Do you honestly want to know how fast hulk heals. Lets put it like this, his healing factor is double wolverines and wolverine gets punched by hulk and his insides turns to jello but he heals before the next punch.

By h2h skills I mean actually demonstrated MA skills and not just brawling which is what Hulk does. As for WWH he was getting pulverized by physical attacks so I don't know how an amped giant isn't going to wreck him physically.

Originally posted by carver9
That statement is pretty much common sense since hulk punches is off the charts. Wolverine insides should turn to liquid fighting the hulk. So why isnt that statement true when its pretty much common sense?

Your common sense differs from the common sense that people with IQ over....20 posesses.

Good luck finding a single issue where Wolverine took more than one repeated blow to the gut. How are his insides going to turn into goo when the Hulk either sends him flying or hits im the face?

Originally posted by Allankles
He couldn't tap into Jimmy's powers at the time and had to wrestle control of Jimmy's powers by force. The retconning happened but Countdown is pretty much pre FC DS in a nutshell.

Like I said, I think Darkseid's team wins, but it isn't because DS overpowers the opposing Team. They've got better skill. By far. That's the difference IMO.

Originally posted by carver9
That statement is pretty much common sense since hulk punches is off the charts. Wolverine insides should turn to liquid fighting the hulk. So why isnt that statement true when its pretty much common sense?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Alright.

Like I said, I think Darkseid's team wins, but it isn't because DS overpowers the opposing Team. They've got better skill. By far. That's the difference IMO.

I never saw Darkseid display any skill.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I never saw Darkseid display any skill.

Originally posted by Allankles
By h2h skills I mean actually demonstrated MA skills and not just brawling which is what Hulk does. As for WWH he was getting pulverized by physical attacks so I don't know how an amped giant isn't going to wreck him physically.

When was he getting pulverized and remember this, every fight in the arc of WWH wasnt his best since he was basically holding back throughout the entire arc. 🙁

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The NG v3 fight was weird they kept changing forms, DS seemingly reversed a choke from Orion by teleporting. It was about mind games by DS in that fight not MA skill.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Orion #5 is the only match that I can say for sure he displays MA skill. NG v3 #2 maybe...possibly. And Apokolips Now, possibly...

Possibly my ass.....

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Possibly my ass.....

But would love to find out.

droolio 😍

Originally posted by carver9
When was he getting pulverized and remember this, every fight in the arc of WWH wasnt his best since he was basically holding back throughout the entire arc. 🙁

And his best with Sentry wasn't all that impressive. Or is the eastern seaboard a valid opponent? 😛

Originally posted by carver9
Show me doomsdays highest speed feat besides boosters words.

You do know this fight is without powers and I'm pretty sure if Doomsday got the jump on WWH, hulk would have countered with his attack.

Don't start with me. I lose my patience around idiocy real quick.

I was pointing out what level HPDD was on.

Originally posted by carver9
Darkseid speed isnt impressive at all to me, his only real speed showing was his fight against orion and thats even debatable due to the audience seeing the entire fight. 😕

Yeah, Orion was the only person Darkseid fought that has superspeed... Fail.

Originally posted by carver9
Wasnt the supes that used the mother box wasnt at complete power? 😕 A superman thats not at a 100 percent would die by doomsday, thats common sense. [/i]

Fail for missing the point. Fail for being yourself. Fail.

DD and HPDD are two different things.

Also, no, Supes was fine.

Then again if you had actually read the comic you would know this.

Lastly, I don't intend to rep Darkseid here. I haven't even started to stomp your crap from the Thanos angle.

I don't need to though because he is Marvel.

Originally posted by Spire
Do you really believe the stuff that you type?

Originally posted by Allankles
And his best with Sentry wasn't all that impressive. Or is the eastern seaboard a valid opponent? 😛

Why wasnt it impressive since basically that was the only time we seen a sentry that went all out?

I guess it wasnt impressive due to the property damage but the same can be said against the orion and darkseid fight since the were fighting in an arena.

Originally posted by Spire
Don't start with me. I lose my patience around idiocy real quick.

I was pointing out what level HPDD was on.

Yeah, Orion was the only person Darkseid fought that has superspeed... Fail.

Fail for missing the point. Fail for being yourself. Fail.

DD and HPDD are two different things.

Also, no, Supes was fine.

Then again if you had actually read the comic you would know this.

Lastly, I don't intend to rep Darkseid here. I haven't even started to stomp your crap from the Thanos angle.

I don't need to though because he is Marvel.

Superman didnt seem fine since doomsday was easily piercing his hide. 😕

Please lets not use "since this brick fought someone that has speed that means he has speed" argument because if thats the case hulk moves at the speed of light and every brick in dc has super speed.

Darkseid and orion fight is debatable and darkseid dont have many showings that indicates that he has speed that would just overcome hulk.

Answer this, how far do you think that HP doomsday is over WWH?

Originally posted by carver9
Superman didnt seem fine since doomsday was easily piercing his hide. 😕

Please lets not use "since this brick fought someone that has speed that means he has speed" argument because if thats the case hulk moves at the speed of light and every brick in dc has super speed.

Darkseid and orion fight is debatable and darkseid dont have many showings that indicates that he has speed that would just overcome hulk.

Answer this, how far do you think that HP doomsday is over WWH?

Doomsday actually navigates around and catches up to people with lightspeed.

The only incidents where the Hulk has fought someone with speed like Superman's, is Sentry. And the Hulk was punched around before their fight ended with the pair standing still. Superman did not stand still when Doomsday jumped him. Superman did not fly into Doomsday in order to hit him, like Sentry did with Hulk.

Understand? Of course not.

Originally posted by carver9
Why wasnt it impressive since basically that was the only time we seen a sentry that went all out?

I guess it wasnt impressive due to the property damage but the same can be said against the orion and darkseid fight since the were fighting in an arena.

Collateral damage doesn't mean much, the point is Sentry WWH wasn't an especially well conceived fight.

A proper fight should have turning points where a fight could end or the momentum shifts, in a great fight every blow landed is significant these two guys didn't seem to be directing attacks that would be lethal or fight ending to each other.

So it comes off kind of like a typical bout. Basically, Pak didn't want anyone to lose.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman didnt seem fine since doomsday was easily piercing his hide. 😕

😆

Originally posted by carver9 Please lets not use "since this brick fought someone that has speed that means he has speed" argument because if thats the case hulk moves at the speed of light and every brick in dc has super speed. [/b]/

Lol.

Hulk doesn't really fight people that have speed on Supes, Orion, Etc., level.

Also, please please do, reference the Glads v Hulk fight so I can laugh at you.

Originally posted by carver9 Darkseid and orion fight is debatable and darkseid dont have many showings that indicates that he has speed that would just overcome hulk. [/b]

Fail.

Originally posted by carver9
Answer this, how far do you think that HP doomsday is over WWH? [/B]

After you answer my question.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Doomsday actually navigates around and catches up to people with lightspeed.

The only incidents where the Hulk has fought someone with speed like Superman's, is Sentry. And the Hulk was punched around before their fight ended with the pair standing still. Superman did not stand still when Doomsday jumped him. Superman did not fly into Doomsday in order to hit him, like Sentry did with Hulk.

Understand? Of course not.

How about this, show me a fight where superman actually used any kind of decent speed against doomsday.

You remember when booster said that Doomsday moves around flash level of speed. During that same arc, Supes and Doomsday fought to the death and everyone around seen every blow that was thrown.

I have yet to see doomsday use any kind of speed during combat and its debatable that hes even above the likes of hulk in that department.

I could easily post scans of wolverine and spiderman proving that they're faster than doomsday (not saying that they are but they at least have SOMETHING showing that they have speed).

Stop bringing up supes speed, its debatable, along with Sentry's. Noone truly knows how fast either of them are, especially during combat.

By the way, hulk kept up with Sentry just fine, dont know where you got that from. In the begining of the fight, he was trying to talk sentry OUT of fighting so that could be the reason why he was getting blitzed. 😕

Originally posted by Spire
😆

Lol.

Hulk doesn't really fight people that have speed on Supes, Orion, Etc., level.

Also, please please do, reference the Glads v Hulk fight so I can laugh at you.

Fail.

After you answer my question.

And what level does orion or supes fight at?

And who hasnt hulk fought? I'm pretty sure he has fought almost every high herald there is in marvel. 😕

I dont need to bring up him fighting glads since he has fought so many more. The question you need to answer is who has doomsday fought that actually use speed against him.