Kurt was a cool pitiful psycho opportunist criminal. His inevitable downfall to the girls was awesome. How can you guys hate this film?
Planet Terror sucked but Death Proof was a romp.
In no way can I perceive it to be the epic failure you guys see it being.
It's intention was to be a road movie with cheap women and cheap thrills. An underrated actor and a funky soundtrack. A grindhouse film.
It's a shame Planet Terror couldn't be more like the film that inspired it.....Nightmare City. Rodriguez has a hammy perception of lighting and direction, he's a modern day hack. He doesn't know how to present a film in light of 80's exploitation films. And Tarantino honestly doesn't either. I actually reckon Eli Roth has a better idea of recreating the genre because of his Thanksgiving trailer.
Screw Machete, give me Thanksgiving!
But I can't dislike DeathProof. What are your reasons? I agree it didn't capture that old exploitation vibe. It's still a pale imitation to Faster Pussycat Kill Kill. But it was still highly watchable.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Kurt was a cool pitiful psycho opportunist criminal. His inevitable downfall to the girls was awesome. How can you guys hate this film?
Planet Terror sucked but Death Proof was a romp.In no way can I perceive it to be the epic failure you guys see it being.
It's intention was to be a road movie with cheap women and cheap thrills. An underrated actor and a funky soundtrack. A grindhouse film.
It's a shame Planet Terror couldn't be more like the film that inspired it.....Nightmare City. Rodriguez has a hammy perception of lighting and direction, he's a modern day hack. He doesn't know how to present a film in light of 80's exploitation films. And Tarantino honestly doesn't either. I actually reckon Eli Roth has a better idea of recreating the genre because of his Thanksgiving trailer.
Screw Machete, give me Thanksgiving!
But I can't dislike DeathProof. What are your reasons? I agree it didn't capture that old exploitation vibe. It's still a pale imitation to Faster Pussycat Kill Kill. But it was still highly watchable.
It was overly long, moreso with the extended cut which nearly lobotomised me.....it had a boring messy script, every sickeningly self important character in it (maybe other than Kurt Russell's character talked with identical patterns and character like they were all possessed by Tarantino to the point that the fourth wall is constantly shattere- no actually forget about THAT: it was never actually built in the 1st place..... )
The bricks for it never made it out of the kiln.
Not to mention that it was meant to be grindhouseish visually with all the degraged film look yet looked clearer and more pristine that a lot of 2000-2010 movies once you'd paid your money based on the grindhouse concept. Swizz...we were also used to so much better from QT. His worst easily.
Planet Terror was 23,619 times better in absolutely every sense.
Fun and intrigue cooler characters, characters that spoke differently from each other, better plot (in that it had one) better edited and directed, and had a better cast... Also not one person had a Machine gun for a leg in Death Proof.
Also it did the grindhouse feel way better.
Death Proof is better that Planet Terror at making me sleep though (once the mind accepts it's meritless banality)...
Planet Terror along with Machete also did the old film stock thing then retreated into modern cinematography.
Though I loved the first 20 mins of PT the creepy scene with the soldiers entering the gas. It actually creeped me out. If the rest of the film held that atmosphere then I would've loved it. And the Hospital scene was also good but the rest was boring I didn't like any of the characters.
I haven't seen the directors cut of DP yet but I did feel relieved once the final car chase seen happened. Though I enjoyed the dialogue between the girl gang. Kurt was simply a douche psycho. I can't see him doing much more with what he had.
I found it really hard to sit through PT. I was literally drained by the time they heroes got captured and had to escape the compound.
But each to their own 😄 I find all Rodrigez films to start good then turn to utter crap by the halfway mark. He's a hack.
Eli Roth needs to make Thanksgiving. A consistent 70/80's vibe slasher like the trailer would be awesome.
Have you guys seen Nightmare City. City of the Living Dead and Faster Pussycat Kill Kill?
PT kept it going more constantly that DP though....and even did the missing reel thing. Machete was Grindhouse oscars-of-grittiness worthy, compared tot her director's cut of DP.
Yeah that early scene reminded me of classic John Carpenter.
Yeah my criticisms are are little to do with Mr.Russell here. He was the best thing about the movie without a doubt.
I'd prefer to say that he's really good at making movies with distinct geography to their composition. Ive not yet see a movie from him that I didnt love. On the other hand, QT bored me horribly with DP and I thought Inglorious Bastards was overated.
Loved his stuff prior to that though.
Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown are to me a sacred trilogy. Loved Kill Bill's both parts, after I accepted it for what it was...I liked his script contributions in Crimson tide too.
But DP was a big 'red card' job.
Isaw faster pussycat kill, kill years and years ago.
Seen a whole lot of living dead.
Not familiar with nightmare city though.
I must respectfully ask: How did you just call Rodriguez a hack and then go on to seemingly praise Eli Roth? 😛
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I must respectfully ask: How did you just call Rodriguez a hack and then go on to seemingly praise Eli Roth? 😛
😆 true. Though his films aren't any good besides Hostel. Hostel II was terrible. I found the Thanksgiving trailer to be utterly awesome. If he can spread that out into a film consistently that'll be great.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown are to me a sacred trilogy. Loved Kill Bill's both parts, after I accepted it for what it was...I liked his script contributions in Crimson tide too.
But DP was a big 'red card' job.I saw faster pussycat kill, kill years and years ago.
Seen a whole lot of living dead.
Not familiar with nightmare city though.
I ageee Tarantino seems to be fading. I guess the hookers and blow really effected his artistic output.
Pussy Cat to this day was a incredibly awesome film. I heard Tarantino wanted to do a remake. And I'm all for it. I see DP as a combo of Mad Max and Pussycat. But nowhere near as good.
I love Italian Horror which to me is the best and am a fan of Lovecraftian fiction I definitely recommend watching all of City of the Living Dead. It's one of my favourites. Actually alot of films form the director Lucio Fulci are hidden gems.
Nightmare City actually freaked me out. It was full of those creepy scenes like the beggining if PT. To me comparing the two is an example of more is less. The story behind the inspiration of making Planet Terror is funny.
I see the resemblance to John Carpenter's style in the gas/soldier scene. Synth soundtrack does wonders for a horror scene. Or funky jazz/rock.