Ironman vs Dumbledore · Movie Versus Forum

Rogue Jedi Restricted

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
EU assumption and you (should by now) know it.

So if in DH4 someone said Hey McClane, "I havent seen you since Fort Bragg!!", what does this tell you?

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

Its the same because it falls in the same realm of unperformed (in movies) movie feats being cited in place of actual feats performed in said movie.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by Nephthys
He wasn't incapacitated, he was sweating and annoyed, but not incapacitated.
Beds on hold for that post.

He couldn't move while he was doing it, ie: incapacitated.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Its the same because it falls in the same realm of unperformed (in movies) movie feats being cited in place of actual feats performed in said movie.

If someone in a movie says that someone can do something than they can do it.

Rogue Jedi Restricted

Originally posted by KingD19
Well all the Aurors and Death Eaters were extremely skilled, but they still used wands.

The wand is just an aiming device, man. Magic can still be done without it.

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by omgchos
Doesn't matter. I just told you that when snape did it to harry, he was incapacited, and since Dumble told harry he was better at it than snape...... stark is done.

And you're lying. See above, making Tony sweat isn't going to stop him blasting.

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So if in DH4 someone said Hey McClane, "I havent seen you since Fort Bragg!!", what does this tell you?

Nothing as far as screen feats count, technically.

Other than showing that McClanes good at not seeing people for a while when he doesnt want to see them.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by Robtard
And you're lying. See above, making Tony sweat isn't going to stop him blasting.

You should see above and maybe watch the movie again. He had to force snape out before he could move again.

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by omgchos
If someone in a movie says that someone can do something than they can do it.

And the movie never said "Dumbledore can control minds with legitimacy", which is a mind-reading spell.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

Not all spells require a wand if the wizard is strong enough. Dumbles uses Arresto Momentum without a wand when Harry fell off his firebolt. A wand is more of an aiming device.

So Voldemort, from peru or wherever he's hiding, can use legilimecy, through the distance, through the many, many protective spells around Hogwarts, aiming specifically at Harry, without Dumbledore realising or having anything better to stop him then Occlumency, without a wand? And this makes sense to you?

Damn....

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by omgchos
You should see above and maybe watch the movie again. He had to force snape out before he could move again.

Watching it once was enough.

Since we're just going to speculate beyond the films, I'm going to speculate that Tony's mind is stronger than most others and he'll be able to hold off having his mind read long enough to fire.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by Robtard
And the movie never said "Dumbledore can control minds with legitimacy", which is a mind-reading spell.

Read my posts man, harry was incapacitated by snape, dumbledore is stated to be better than snape. Mind controling is no longer the issue.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by Robtard
Watching it once was enough.
Since we're just going to speculate beyond the films, I'm going to speculate that Tony's mind is stronger than most others and he'll be able to hold off having his mind read long enough to fire.

Show me one time i speculated beyond the films. I've only ever used the films. I was the one that told Nephty not to use the books. Get over yourself.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

He couldn't move while he was doing it, ie: incapacitated.

facepalm2

Epic fail. This was not shown.

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

Originally posted by Robtard
Watching it once was enough.
Since we're just going to speculate beyond the films, I'm going to speculate that Tony's mind is stronger than most others and he'll be able to hold off having his mind read long enough to fire.

Sounds reasonable. ✅

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by Nephthys
facepalm2
Epic fail. This was not shown.

Ok i thought you were going to bed youve said it enuf. You do seem cranky. Whenever snape did it harry closed his eyes and doubled up, maybe in some kind of pain, that i cannot say for sure, but he did double up and close his eyes. Then it cut to a scene of the invasion of his mind and harry had to force snape out before he could lean back to his normal position.

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by omgchos
Ok i thought you were going to bed youve said it enuf. You do seem cranky. Whenever snape did it harry closed his eyes and doubled up, maybe in some kind of pain, that i cannot say for sure, but he did double up and close his eyes. Then it cut to a scene of the invasion of his mind and harry had to force snape out before he could lean back to his normal position.

Let me guess, this took "a second"?

Rogue Jedi Restricted

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nothing as far as screen feats count, technically.
Other than showing that McClanes good at not seeing people for a while when he doesnt want to see them.

It would mean that McClane obviously received special forces training at Bragg. It is said, it is implied, it is just as creditable as what is shown. Impediment agreed long ago that what is implied counts just as much as what is shown.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

Ok so I watched the scene again on youtube and the most it makes Harry do is grimace. Plus he's clearly moved by the end of the flashbacks so he was not incapacitated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uti00a8Gd4

0.39 to 59. He's clearly moved.

And yeah, bed now.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by Robtard
Let me guess, this took "a second"?

What does that mean? Once snape used the spell harry was incapacitated till snape was out.... plain and simple.