Toxin vs. Daken

Started by carver922 pages
Originally posted by ankur29
he did? and was he making that judgembnt under the influence of pheromones?

He was tagging Daken during there confrontation. If daken was using his pheromones Cyber wouldnt have landed a lick and would have died from a heart attack sooner than he did.

It was a straight up fight when cyber complimented dakens speed.

Stop throwing everything off on his pheromones.

Originally posted by carver9
I knew that was made clear but Daken didnt use his pheromones in EVERY battle that he had with his father, especially in the beginning.

Their first fight? Oh, he did use them...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Their first fight? Oh, he did use them...

So he used them everytime he fought his father?

Originally posted by carver9
So he used them everytime he fought his father?

Remember that "fight" in Original Sin? I don't think he used them then, Logan didn't want to fight at all. Akihiro tried to goad him old-fashioned way.

In Avengers Free Comic he didn't use them either.

And in their most recent scuffle there were no pheromone manipulation, it was all about "who gets Muramasa Blade first wins".

Originally posted by jinzin
Spiderman tried to use impact webbing on Daken immediately after vacating the elevator and Daken wasn't even there anymore.

Daken's commented 2 or three times on Wolverine being slow while beating him to the punch.

beat him to the punch ? i hope you don't mean this

Originally posted by ankur29
beat him to the punch ? i hope you don't mean this
Lol, I didn't actually.

Daken being faster than logan is highly deabatable, he calls logan slow but gets tagged by logan:

Originally posted by ankur29
Daken being faster than logan is highly deabatable, he calls logan slow but gets tagged by logan:

Even though he could be faster, that doesnt mean that wolverine doesnt have the speed to keep up with him. 😕

Spiderman is faster than venom but venom seems to have a easy time hitting him.

Originally posted by carver9

Spiderman is faster than venom but venom seems to have a easy time hitting him.

Exactly... 😉
Although he negates spidersense and all, I must say you got it just right.

Brock Venom is as fast as classic Spider-man, just not as agile. And supposedly has even better reflexes, he has crazy feats like catching 3 bullets at the same time with a symbiote tendril...

Originally posted by SamZED
Brock Venom is as fast as classic Spider-man, just not as agile. And supposedly has even better reflexes, he has crazy feats like catching 3 bullets at the same time with a symbiote tendril...

He's no where close to being spidermans equal in speed. Hell, venom has a hard time even tagging wolverine.

Originally posted by carver9
He's no where close to being spidermans equal in speed. Hell, venom has a hard time even tagging wolverine.
That's the problem with Venom, some writers make him HUGE and downgrade his speed. But he really IS as fast as classic Spider-man. He was said to be as fast as Ben Reilly in a comic. Not to mention the speed feats he has. Like catching a bullet after it was fired and many others.

Originally posted by SamZED
Brock Venom is as fast as classic Spider-man, just not as agile. And supposedly has even better reflexes, he has crazy feats like catching 3 bullets at the same time with a symbiote tendril...
You would think he is supposed to be as fast, but they make him a lumbering brute.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You would think he is supposed to be as fast, but they make him a lumbering brute.
True. That's really annoying.. 🙁

Originally posted by SamZED
That's the problem with Venom, some writers make him HUGE and downgrade his speed. But he really IS as fast as classic Spider-man. He was said to be as fast as Ben Reilly in a comic. Not to mention the speed feats he has. Like catching a bullet after it was fired and many others.

Spiderman feats outweighs venom by a huge gap

Not all of them. Venom's top feats are as impressive.

Originally posted by SamZED
Not all of them. Venom's top feats are as impressive.

His combat feats isnt as impressive though, thats the problem

Originally posted by carver9
His combat feats isnt as impressive though, thats the problem
There are several examples, plus random speed feats.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6816565
http://img217.imageshack.us/i/77570257gt5.jpg/
But yeah, he's often written to be a slow browler type, kind of like Thing.

nice scans

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
nice scans

Thnx 😮‍💨