Thor vs. Superman

Started by operator61619 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
So what is the problem here?

Source's energy which created the multiversal source wall.

No, it wasn't ignored.

Wonder woman has blocked the entire greek pantheon's power and beings like nekron and quantum zealots powers. I wouldn't lash an eyebeat if she blocked a solar system level blast. Also why weren't they using the same attacks? You are using a negative to prove a negative. Stop.

the problem is that the source wasn't protecting but the shield was, it is an impressive feat, im not denying that but i think the fact that the source was unimpressive and the fact that he was shielded should be taken into account.
regardless, im simply presenting my argument and people can look at mine and yours and choose for themselves. But for some reason i think i am telling the truth seeing how superman isn't tanking multiversal blasts, that's for sure

yes which is exactly my point, and the source was unimpressive.

wasn't ignored? like the the fact that the new gods were dead wasn't ignored?

she has good durability feats yes, but there are 2 things i want to point out:

1. later in the issue the commander of the void hound said 'why hold back'?

http://i.imgur.com/OJUHs3O.jpg

2. apparently, wonder woman casually blocked 2 solar system busting blasts only with her bracelets simultaneously (that's of course going by your logic)

http://i.imgur.com/7sbG9bL.jpg

again, let people decide for themselves since something tells me you're still going to argue and disagree.

Originally posted by operator616
the problem is that the source wasn't protecting but the shield was, it is an impressive feat, im not denying that but i think the fact that the source was unimpressive and the fact that he was shielded should be taken into account.
regardless, im simply presenting my argument and people can look at mine and yours and choose for themselves. But for some reason i think i am telling the truth seeing how superman isn't tanking multiversal blasts, that's for sure

yes which is exactly my point, and the source was unimpressive.

wasn't ignored? like the the fact that the new gods were dead wasn't ignored?

she has good durability feats yes, but there are 2 things i want to point out:

1. later in the issue the commander of the void hound said 'why hold back'?

http://i.imgur.com/OJUHs3O.jpg

2. apparently, wonder woman casually blocked 2 solar system busting blasts only with her bracelets simultaneously (that's of course going by your logic)

http://i.imgur.com/7sbG9bL.jpg

again, let people decide for themselves since something tells me you're still going to argue and disagree.


The shield was destroyed totally and superman took the blast then. That good enough for you? I don't see why that's so important, it was just a shield Infinity man trapped superman in. It was nothing special and it wasn't implied that superman took any less blast with it protecting him.

Source being unimpressive has nothing to do with the energies source wall produced when it blew up.

No. DONG and Countdown were just a reflection of a higher battle going on in heaven as per FC.

Her bracers are damn near invincible.

It wasn't a solar system level blast since destroying planets and stars don't take that level of power. Also that "why hold back" was a rhetorical question, they weren't actually holding back when you read the whole text. Also void hound wasn't dependent on them, it had its own mind and it was angry as the first scan shows.

Honestly you're just nitpicking and lowballing at this point.

Captain Marvel and Barda was hit by the blast as well.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also tanks multiple blasts from a sun eater filled with red sun radiation and then survives an explosion 50 times bigger than a supernova

Survives the destruction of multiversal source wall

Walks through an all out magical assault from an Elder god Disciple

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/58.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/59.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/60.jpg

And of course the two colliding planets

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/deathofthenewgods080260co1.jpg

Takes several attacks from Shazam

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/superman216i.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/superman216j.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/superman216k.jpg

Takes several blasts from Entropy Aegis

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/ManOfSteel122a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/ManOfSteel122b.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/ManOfSteel134a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/ManOfSteel134b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/ManOfSteel134c.jpg

From Dominus

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/superman138a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/superman138b.jpg

Superman wasn't hit by the super nova, just the shockwaves. He outflew the rest.

The phuck?

He was at ground zero, how did he only get hit by the 'shockwaves' in your interpretation?

Originally posted by carver9
Captain Marvel and Barda was hit by the blast as well.

So?
Originally posted by carver9
Superman wasn't hit by the super nova, just the shockwaves. He outflew the rest.

He was at ground zero carter, we even see him flung back by the super nova blast.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Now some strength showings.

Pulls Earth with a harness made by hal.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029e.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029f.jpg

Moves Earth+Moon+a huge ship from another solar system via hyperspace

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0043.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0044.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0045.jpg

Pulls himself out of the source wall which absorbs a planet across lightyears to the hole superman made

Superman holds a solar system destroyer black hole in his hand

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla077b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla077c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla077d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla077e.jpg

While weakened moves earth with the help of J'onn and diana

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla075a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla075b.jpg

Stops moon from spiraling out of orbit for hours opposing a machine which had the power output of a sun

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15249004/26.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248994/80PageGiant01a.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248995/80PageGiant01b.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248996/80PageGiant01c.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248998/80PageGiant01d.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248999/80PageGiant01e.jpg.html

Survives more than a planet's gravity

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/adventuresof618c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/adventuresof618d.jpg

Pushes a growing star system out of orbit

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/Trinity02a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/Trinity02b.jpg

These are condensed planets.

Also the mother of all lifting feats, the infinite book.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/beyond3d01k.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/beyond3d01l.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/beyond3d01m.jpg

Pushes a baby planet out of orbit

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/supermanbatmanannual02a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/supermanbatmanannual02b.jpg

Pushes himself up in a black hole's gravity

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/superman665a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/superman665b.jpg

This was a young superman to boot.

Stops a 70 miles long spaceship travelling fast enough to destroy a planet

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01d.jpg

Moves the endless millwheels of maggedon

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/JLA40-20.jpg

Throws a ship the size of a small moon to another solar system

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/moonmover.jpg


Why are you putting dodgy headings on a bunch of these? They're still good feats, but some of these headings are misleading.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16030467/ActionComics847d.jpg.html

Whats up Cosmic, good to see you? When is your bday so I can buy you some glasses? Its right there in your face...the scan itself tells you.

"The explosion was about fifty times the size of Keplers Supernova. The ELECTROMAGNETIC SHOCK WAVE CAME RUSHING TOWARDS CLARK AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT".

Hell, the scene right after that tells us that the blast itself would have killed Clark if he was hit by it since it states some of the properties would have. Read...

"Right behind it was an expanding ball of radiation (that came from the blast) that would have incinerated clark as soon as it touched him".

What in the hell man?

Originally posted by abhilegend
So?
He was at ground zero carter, we even see him flung back by the super nova blast.

Stop misleading people and reread a LOT of your scans.

im not going to argue with you about these 2 instances let people decide for themselves, fair enough?

you yourself said that source's energy was the one that created the source wall, so source being unimpressive directly links to source wall being unimpressive.

you speak the truth, void hound does a mind of its own, but the commander was controlling it and the void hound was simply limiting his mind:

http://i.imgur.com/w6hkvjS.jpg

lowball? please stop making these accusations, i assure you im not here to lowball, if i really wanted to do that id show you half a dozen instances were superman was unable to move a planet, do you want me to do that? huh?

instead while i was checking my comics, particularly the trinity series (because the void hound did appear in that series and i wanted to check something about it) i came upon an impressive feat for superman:

it's from trinity #5:

http://i.imgur.com/YE0mDZ0.jpg

superman was able to hit hard enough to shatter small planetS

so im not here to lowball, just clearing some instances, but i guess it's up to the people to look at the facts and determine the feat in question.

Originally posted by carver9
Stop misleading people and reread a LOT of your scans.
👆

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Why are you putting dodgy headings on a bunch of these? They're still good feats, but some of these headings are misleading.

Like what?
Originally posted by carver9
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16030467/ActionComics847d.jpg.html

Whats up Cosmic, good to see you? When is your bday so I can buy you some glasses? Its right there in your face...the scan itself tells you.

"The explosion was about fifty times the size of Keplers Supernova. The ELECTROMAGNETIC SHOCK WAVE CAME RUSHING TOWARDS CLARK AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT".

Hell, the scene right after that tells us that the blast itself would have killed Clark if he was hit by it since it states some of the properties would have. Read...

"Right behind it was an expanding ball of radiation (that came from the blast) that would have incinerated clark as soon as it touched him".

What in the hell man?

Originally posted by carver9
Stop misleading people and reread a LOT of your scans.

facepalm

Superman was flung back by the blast as seen in the panel. The shockwave came after that. Can you read and see at the same time?

Originally posted by operator616
im not going to argue with you about these 2 instances let people decide for themselves, fair enough?

you yourself said that source's energy was the one that created the source wall, so source being unimpressive directly links to source wall being unimpressive.

you speak the truth, void hound does a mind of its own, but the commander was controlling it and the void hound was simply limiting his mind:

http://i.imgur.com/w6hkvjS.jpg

lowball? please stop making these accusations, i assure you im not here to lowball, if i really wanted to do that id show you half a dozen instances were superman was unable to move a planet, do you want me to do that? huh?

instead while i was checking my comics, particularly the trinity series (because the void hound did appear in that series and i wanted to check something about it) i came upon an impressive feat for superman:

it's from trinity #5:

http://i.imgur.com/YE0mDZ0.jpg

superman was able to hit hard enough to shatter small planetS

so im not here to lowball, just clearing some instances, but i guess it's up to the people to look at the facts and determine the feat in question.

Except source being unimpressive has nothing to do with the energy released from a multiversal construct blowing up. You are reaching too far here.

That has nothing to do with the potency of the blasts.

I know of that instance. In fact I don't think you can show me anything about superman that I already don't know about.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Like what?

Let's take an easy one for example.

"Pulls earth with a harness made by Hal". You just shieted all over Hal as if he had absolutely nothing to do with the moving of the planet.

Uh... I just don't get it.

Abhi,

I'm not going over this topic with you again because we have danced this dance to many times bro. The scan clearly states what happened and you spicing it up doesn't change anything. Ninety percent of the scans you've posted have context, a lot of context. Sad that you have to resort to misleading people to make a character look good.

Originally posted by carver9
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16030467/ActionComics847d.jpg.html

Whats up Cosmic, good to see you? When is your bday so I can buy you some glasses? Its right there in your face...the scan itself tells you.

"The explosion was about fifty times the size of Keplers Supernova. The ELECTROMAGNETIC SHOCK WAVE CAME RUSHING TOWARDS CLARK AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT".

Hell, the scene right after that tells us that the blast itself would have killed Clark if he was hit by it since it states some of the properties would have. Read...

"Right behind it was an expanding ball of radiation (that came from the blast) that would have incinerated clark as soon as it touched him".

What in the hell man?

Well that's a pretty phucked up demonstration of physics then. I don't think I've ever heard of a shock wave coming BEFORE the initial release of energy in an explosion.

edit: Never mind.

if you see me reaching too far then that's your opinion, im going to leave it to the people to determine for themselves.

it wasn't, i was replying to your comment about void hound being independent of them

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Let's take an easy one for example.

"Pulls earth with a harness made by Hal". You just shieted all over Hal as if he had absolutely nothing to do with the moving of the planet.

Uh... I just don't get it.


He did. Hal's entire concentration was on his breaking construct.
Originally posted by carver9
Abhi,

I'm not going over this topic with you again because we have danced this dance to many times bro. The scan clearly states what happened and you spicing it up doesn't change anything. Ninety percent of the scans you've posted have context, a lot of context. Sad that you have to resort to misleading people to make a character look good.


And I've wrecked you in all those arguments. Either point out the context which there is none or shut up.

Originally posted by operator616
if you see me reaching too far then that's your opinion, im going to leave it to the people to determine for themselves.

it wasn't, i was replying to your comment about void hound being independent of them

Fair enough.

Originally posted by carver9
Abhi,

I'm not going over this topic with you again because we have danced this dance to many times bro. The scan clearly states what happened and you spicing it up doesn't change anything. Ninety percent of the scans you've posted have context, a lot of context. Sad that you have to resort to misleading people to make a character look good.

Example...

You said Superman pulled the Earth and the moon but in the same scan Superman states he can't move planets. The ship had a lot to do with that ft.

http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/abhilegend/media/Superman/sup_tes__0043.jpg.html#/user/abhilegend/media/Superman/sup_tes__0043.jpg.html?&_suid=137114555500807088045610580593

I'm done debating against you on your own scans.