Despero vs Thanos

Originally posted by Mindset
Let's see which would look worse for their respective company, Supes losing or Thor...

just saying

Point taken, Thor losing isn't that much of a biggie, as he's lost to many others, Superman on the other hand is an icon. I still think going by feat that Superman slightly outdoes thor, and I mean by the barest of margins, the fight between them was far shorter than I would have liked, and a rematch is in order, but the end results should nearly always be the same.

Superman can simply take more punishment than Thor, which is truly what it boils down to.

Originally posted by Stoic
Point taken, Thor losing isn't that much of a biggie, as he's lost to many others, Superman on the other hand is an icon. I still think going by feat that Superman slightly outdoes thor, and I mean by the barest of margins, the fight between them was far shorter than I would have liked, and a rematch is in order, but the end results should nearly always be the same.

Superman can simply take more punishment than Thor, which is truly what it boils down to.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Nah. It was said that DC's heroes are generally more powerful. Most of marvel's really powerful heroes aren't earth bound.

Wondy Seemed might powerful and impressive compared to herc and to Quasar.

I'm sorry but where did it say that again, because I must have missed that. You are talking about JLA/Avenger x-over correct?

Originally posted by Stoic
I sorry but where did it say that again, because I must have missed that. You are talking about JLA/Avenger x-over correct?

I'll check it out, I remeber it saying that DC earth was slightly larger, but can't remember anything else... like I said I'll have to reread it.

On the subject of Thanos however I have a bit of a hard time biting into Despero beating him, as he has far too many low moments to gauge his true unassisted power levels.

Originally posted by Stoic
I'll check it out, I remeber it saying that DC earth was slightly larger, but can't remember anything else... like I said I'll have to reread it.

On the subject of Thanos however I have a bit of a hard time biting into Despero beating him, as he has far too many low moments to gauge his true unassisted power levels.

Superman isn't more powerful than Thor... no high herald off the top of my head is.

There's people that can put it together better though. Mainly talking about Thor's underwhelming speed.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Superman isn't more powerful than Thor... no high herald off the top of my head is.

There's people that can put it together better though. Mainly talking about Thor's underwhelming speed.

Without Mjolnir Thor loses a large amount of power, and in a battle with someone like Superman, being seperated from his hammer isn't unlikely. So arguably Superman is more powerful than Thor on several levels.

Originally posted by Stoic
Without Mjolnir Thor loses a large amount of power, and in a battle with someone like Superman, being seperated from his hammer isn't unlikely. So arguably Superman is more powerful than Thor on several levels.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
I wonder if that goes under the "There's people that can put it together better though." category.

No it simply means that Superman is more powerful than Thor on many levels. His body is more durable, he is more agile, he can strength amp, or burn Thor to a crisp with HV, move at a rate of speed that would make it nearly impossible for Thor to even touch him, much like he did to Doomsday Rex, now if you don't call that more powerful I don't know what is.... This is a little more than just how well he puts it together.

Originally posted by Stoic
No it simply means that Superman is more powerful than Thor on many levels. His body is more durable, he is more agile, he can strength amp, or burn Thor to a crisp with HV, move at a rate of speed that would make it nearly impossible for Thor to even touch him, much like he did to Doomsday Rex, now if you don't call that more powerful I don't know what is.... This is a little more than just how well he puts it together.

A lot is wrong with this post. I agree superman is more durable when it comes to sharpnel but I actually think that thor can take more blunt force punishment then superman.

More agile, I honestly think that they are even. I have seen nothing from both to make me think that they are athletes.

Heat vision aint doing jack to a guy that fought in the sun.

I agree, superman is faster but I can see thor touching him just as much as superman will be touching him and doomsday rex was loosing power unless you forgot when superman brought that up.

The only way superman can strength amp is by taking a bath in the sun whereas thor already comes with the ability to destroy a planet.

With mjolnir thor is more powerful and versatile then superman on so many levels. .

Without mjolnir superman would get a good majority over thor. I agree superman is more powerful.

The whole series was a joke anyways. Hell, Wonder Man was busting Lantern constructs and I dont feel that was right either.

Thor loses and nobody cares or notices. Marvel says oh well and moves on. If Superman lost, that would have been like taking milk from a baby concerning DC.

Originally posted by tkitna
The whole series was a joke anyways. Hell, Wonder Man was busting Lantern constructs and I dont feel that was right either.

Thor loses and nobody cares or notices. Marvel says oh well and moves on. If Superman lost, that would have been like taking milk from a baby concerning DC.

Originally posted by Stoic
No it simply means that Superman is more powerful than Thor on many levels. His body is more durable, he is more agile, he can strength amp, or burn Thor to a crisp with HV, move at a rate of speed that would make it nearly impossible for Thor to even touch him, much like he did to Doomsday Rex, now if you don't call that more powerful I don't know what is.... This is a little more than just how well he puts it together.

And also...
Being more durable has nothing to do with overall power in any form, neither does agility. However, this added with the speed you quoted has to do with putting it together real good. Superman isn't the strongest, he isn't the fastest, he isn't the smartest, he isn't the most durable, he doesn't have the most power, however, when he throws it all together, he is extremely powerful, and extremely versatile, and the sort of stuff Superman can do, make up for any lack of one feat. However, even then, this makes him more adaptable than Thor, not more powerful.
He can amp his strength with an outside source... not on his own.
I highly doubt he can burn Thor to a crisp. The only thing that has done the exact same thing, is Destroyer's beam (while Thor was beaten on already). Not Celestial blasts, not Odin blasts, not Perrikus, not a being with the power of Odin, Perrikus, and a ton of Dark Gods, etc, but the full power concentrated in one area to a weakened Thor, and I doubt Superman can match that.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Ionic Wonder Man was far from Weak. And the series was not a joke, Perez and Busiek took it very seriously. It's even canon to both companies.

Well, if thats the best they can do, I feel sorry for them. I dont know, I just read it again a few weeks ago and felt like it was cheesy and cheap. Am I the only one that thought it sucked?

Originally posted by tkitna
The whole series was a joke anyways. Hell, Wonder Man was busting Lantern constructs and I dont feel that was right either.

Thor loses and nobody cares or notices. Marvel says oh well and moves on. If Superman lost, that would have been like taking milk from a baby concerning DC.

Lets not forget that iron man repulsor rays did more damage to superman then thors best hits. Hell iron man almost tkoed superman with a blast of his rays.

That comic was crap but I wasnt mad at seeing superman win, thats what he does, win. He is the greatest hero but I know that thor is overrall more powerful then superman and carries a weapon that should be able to one shot him.

Originally posted by tkitna
Well, if thats the best they can do, I feel sorry for them. I dont know, I just read it again a few weeks ago and felt like it was cheesy and cheap. Am I the only one that thought it sucked?

Originally posted by carver9
Lets not forget that iron man repulsor rays did more damage to superman then thors best hits. Hell iron man almost tkoed superman with a blast of his rays.

That comic was crap but I wasnt mad at seeing superman win, thats what he does, win. He is the greatest hero but I know that thor is overrall more powerful then superman and carries a weapon that should be able to one shot him.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Let's not forget Iron Man was Amped by A mother box. Mother box has Amped Supergirl and superboy's tk so that they were able to pwn an entire planet with a force shield.

Lol, during the time the avengers jumped superman, ironman had nothing to do with the mother box. Ironman almost koed superman with a dash of REGULAR rays, unless you have PROOF that ironman was amped during the time he shot superman. (LOL, you have an excuse for everything.)

Originally posted by carver9

That comic was crap but I wasnt mad at seeing superman win, thats what he does, win. He is the greatest hero but I know that thor is overrall more powerful then superman and carries a weapon that should be able to one shot him.

No, i'm not upset by Thor losing either. I'm just saying that DC had way more to lose than Marvel by having their character lose that fight. I knew who was going to win before I opened the book and so did everybody else. Thor fans could only wish he had a decent showing and he really didnt. 😉