zoom vs silver surfer

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i didnt want to start SS in orbit or a mile above the ground b/c it would be spite but you are right SS would be on his board regardless maybe a few feet or story above the ground.

Surfer is rarely ever that close to the ground in a battle, tho. Unless he goes CIS-mode and decides to H2H his opponent (w/c admittedly happens quite a lot in comics these days). I'd say in most comics he's a couple of stories above the ground, I mean why would he ever need to be that close to ground level?

Admittedly, if Surfer if conditions were designed to give Zoom the advantage (ground level Surfer), then he can take the majority. But I'd only give this on the "CIS on" stipulation.

Bloodlusted, Surfer stays in orbit, uses his cosmic sense to scan the planet for his opponent , realizes he can't track him due to his speed, then just decides to blow up the planet. Zoom dies.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210

Bloodlusted, Surfer stays in orbit, uses his cosmic sense to scan the planet for his opponent , realizes he can't track him due to his speed, then just decides to blow up the planet. Zoom dies.

Originally posted by Juntai
That would be way out of character for someone who feels the sanctity of life is so important, like Surfer.

after his upgrade SS would destroy a planet to win the fight. also the second fight is bloodlust w/no cis

Regarding the conversation between Enyalus and Leonidas. From what I've read, it seemed that Wally had, used up Jay's and Bart's speed. That seems to be made pretty clear in "Flash Vol.2 #200" as I recall. Jay states that it would take time for their speed and he would need to wait before facing Zoom again and Wally even says that he doesn't need their speed, further implying to the fact that Wally used up the speed.

It seems that the "Mantra > Bart and Jay" in terms of power ups of speed. It's not really logical, but hey it was Johns.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Regarding the conversation between Enyalus and Leonidas. From what I've read, it seemed that Wally had, used up Jay's and Bart's speed. That seems to be made pretty clear in "Flash Vol.2 #200" as I recall. Jay states that it would take time for their speed and he would need to wait before facing Zoom again and Wally even says that he doesn't need their speed, further implying to the fact that Wally used up the speed.

It seems that the "Mantra > Bart and Jay" in terms of power ups of speed. It's not really logical, but hey it was Johns.

after reading the issue i agree 100%.

eny, you trying to tell me that even AFTER the battle, during that whole scene in the hospital and the lab, he STILL retained their speed?? no way.

then there is the scene where wally says he going after zoom but can't wait for jay and bart to power up again since it would take hours. why would he even WANT to wait, why would they even mention that if he still had their speed? no way. makes no sense at all. not saying the formula being greater than bart+jay makes sense, but it is very clear that he no longer had their speed when jesse gave him the formula.

Originally posted by leonidas
after reading the issue i agree 100%.

eny, you trying to tell me that even AFTER the battle, during that whole scene in the hospital and the lab, he STILL retained their speed?? no way.

then there is the scene where wally says he going after zoom but can't wait for jay and bart to power up again since it would take hours. why would he even WANT to wait, why would they even mention that if he still had their speed? no way. makes no sense at all. not saying the formula being greater than bart+jay makes sense, but it is very clear that he no longer had their speed when jesse gave him the formula.

Of course you agree. It's me. I'm always right. Keep agreeing with me and you will guarantee to never be wrong.

If I say 2 plus 2 equals fish. 2 plus 2 equals fish and that's the end of that. uhuh

durelly

Well fish equals four.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Of course you agree. It's me. I'm always right.

If I say 2 plus 2 equals fish. 2 plus 2 equals fish and that's the end of that. uhuh

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Originally posted by leonidas
eny, you trying to tell me that even AFTER the battle, during that whole scene in the hospital and the lab, he STILL retained their speed?? no way.

then there is the scene where wally says he going after zoom but can't wait for jay and bart to power up again since it would take hours. why would he even WANT to wait, why would they even mention that if he still had their speed? no way. makes no sense at all. not saying the formula being greater than bart+jay makes sense, but it is very clear that he no longer had their speed when jesse gave him the formula.

Could be argued either way. My explanation makes Jesse's formula recital thing make sense.

Originally posted by Mindset
Well fish equals four.

YouTube video

Originally posted by leonidas
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
YouTube video

Originally posted by Mindset
Prove me wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_2_plus_2_equal_fish

2+2 = fish

2+2 = four

fish = four

Originally posted by Mindset
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_2_plus_2_equal_fish

2+2 = fish

2+2 = four

fish = four

getout

I can't argue with that logic.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Jay mentions that they won't be able to give him their speed again for a few hours, since they were still drained from the first time. Wally points out that he doesn't need Jay's speed.

Could be argued either way. My explanation makes Jesse's formula recital thing make sense.

by making other parts of the story NOT make sense and by allowing him to retain speed longer than he ever has. neither makes sense, but it seems clear through the story what the writer was trying to get at. even at the end he says JESSE'S speed is being used up, not jay's and bart's AND jesse's speed.

i agree it doesn't make a lot of sense, but still . . .

besides, rage said i was right, so, that's the end of it. nwoot

Originally posted by leonidas
by making other parts of the story NOT make sense and by allowing him to retain speed longer than he ever has. neither makes sense, but it seems clear through the story what the writer was trying to get at. even at the end he says JESSE'S speed is being used up, not jay's and bart's AND jesse's speed.

i agree it doesn't make a lot of sense, but still . . .

besides, rage said i was right, so, that's the end of it. nwoot

Actually you said I was right. Just so we get that cleared up. biscuits

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Actually you said I was right. Just so we get that cleared up. biscuits

but only AFTER you agreed with me! nwoot

Do the two of you need a room?

Originally posted by leonidas
but only AFTER you agreed with me! nwoot

nahuh

Here is you agreeing with me.

Originally posted by leonidas
i agree 100%.

Now quote me agreeing with you. crackers